I think there's 2 questions that need to be asked: what  can DLT's (ie: 
distributed ledger technologies like blockchain/DAG/etc) do for IoT, and what 
can IoT do for DLT's?

Use cases of DLT for IoT seems to be less useful in the near future or already 
addressed by more traditional cryptographic techniques. Lots of people talk 
about M2M payments but then there's the question of how decentralized you want 
to be or are able to afford. Remember, system requirements for nodes can be 
substantial, the most expensive dell gateway doesn't even have 1/2 the RAM or 
1/4 the SSD space necessary to run an IOTA node (2gb/32gb vs the requisite 
4gb+/200gb SSD), and IOTA was supposed to be designed for IoT! If I had to 
guess, nodes will stay in the cloud until superior DLT's gain popularity (I was 
reading a whitepaper that claimed their node only consumed 2mb of RAM and 12mb 
of flash, but who knows whether that's accurate). edgex foundry's project 
vision alludes to blockchain integration, so that should bode well for the 
future.

On the flip side, IoT can be very useful for DLT's by providing information for 
smart contracts (a lot of utility for smart contracts is limited by the lack of 
plentiful/trustworthy sources of real world data) and collecting data for 
auditing (ex: Walmart+IBM teaming up to track perishable foods in their supply 
chain with blockchain)

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Subject: Re: [dev] IOT and blockchain

On 12/28/2017 01:43 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote:

>
> That's pretty much where I am. I cannot (yet) see how you can have
> both ultra-constrained nodes and blockchain, but that's prolly cause
> I'm not smart enough. The one use case I can see is audit trail,
> keeping a record of on/off-boarding, config changes, OTA updates, etc.

yeah, I think this is where the thought appeal lies.  maybe in the home, but 
more likely in industrial, smart cities, and other such
applications: nodes wanting to reconfigure themselves to adapt to situations 
that matter - where power is sent to, how transportation units are routed, etc. 
 It's a problem if this reconfiguration happens at the behest of bad actors, 
and "blockchain solves that" conceptually, by making it really difficult for 
such bad actors to gain the credibility to make those changes.  But I'm not 
that convinced that the technologies of distributed consensus-making that are 
in play today are anything those in control of such "valuable" resources are 
ready to give up their control over. Call me a skeptic.
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