On 01/16/2006 04:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Just out of curiosity: are you sure ethernet speed/duplex
>>autonegotiation is working? Sun boxes are notorious for misnegotiating
>>duplex, especially with Cisco switches. (Yeah, you wouldn't expect Sun
>>and Cisco to interoperate properly, would you? ;^/) Check the duplex
>>reported in /var/adm/messages when link comes up versus the duplex
>>reported on the switch for the port in question. If they don't match you
>>could be having collision problems. You should also check the error
>>counters on the switch and using netstat -i on the Sun.
> 
> I think many of us will take issue with that statement; when auto 
> negotiating hardware came out both switches and interfaces had some
> warts (specifically the first Ciscos needed new firmware).
> 
> Unfortunately, what happened then was typical for the computer industry;
> it was possible to work around these issues to fix full-duplex/100 mbit.
> And I bet that 99.9% of the duplex issues these days are caused by exactly
> that workaround, implemented at only one side of the connection.

I certainly don't wish to offend any Sun aficionados; I myself have used
them since 3/60 days. I can certainly imagine that, to fix an issue with
an old switch, someone stuck a few lines in /etc/system; then he swaps
out the switch and those forgotten lines are no longer needed but
remain--as a result, the Sun appears not to negotiate with the new
switch because of an ancient workaround. I have no doubt that this
scenario has contributed unfairly to perceptions about Sun.

I note, however, that even a new HP Procurve 4108gl switch I purchased
within the last three years required hardwiring duplex when I connected
it to Sun E5500 and E250R boxes at 100Mb/s, while having no trouble with
other boxes (mostly Intel). So I don't think all the problems have been
completely resolved.

-- 
Jefferson Ogata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
NOAA Computer Incident Response Team (N-CIRT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Never try to retrieve anything from a bear."--National Park Service

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