On 10/10/07 15:54, Vincent Fox wrote:
> In our DataCenter we have both and I can tell you RHEL has
> it's own set of difficulties.  And the patching situation is not
> fundamentally better it's just different.

On the contrary; the patching situation with RHEL is dramatically better
than with Solaris. RPM provides a dramatically improved interface for
identifying every customized configuration file (rpm -V), identifying
what packages own which files, accurately representing dependencies,
etc. You'd think Solaris would have figured out that a real packaging
solution was needed by now...

>   At least with our Solaris
> systems kernel patches USUALLY don't break things, which
> is not the case with the RHEL boxes.  Even the simplest
> example is I can't apply new kernels to RHEL without
> breaking OpenAFS.

If you have kernel customizations, you just need to build the new kernel
or modules targeting the new version before you reboot.

> I have been intrigued by the Debian way of doing things
> lately though.  A couple of our guys use it but we don't
> have it in any production role so I can't comment further.

Debian and derivatives (e.g. Ubuntu) have significantly faster patching
performance than Red Hat, but sport a brain-damaged package signing
scheme (sign the entire repository, rather than individual packages), so
be warned if signing is important to you.

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