Is learning jQuery really such a bad thing? I recently completed my first 
mobile web app designed for the iPhone. It's been a great experience and I've 
learned a ton but some questions still linger in my mind including, is jQuery a 
good idea for mobile web apps?

We use jQuery for all of our desktop web apps and I absolutely love it. But 
when I started out on my mobile project I decided not to use it (at first) 
because even minified it's still 56k and its main purpose, to mitigate 
variations across different browsers, doesn't apply to a site targeted solely 
at WebKit. But it really isn't a question of jQuery or no framework at all 
because the DOM is missing several features that you end up having to write 
yourself (and maintain and teach others on your team). Plus, code written using 
jQuery tends to be smaller, so these factors offset at least somewhat the 
initial download hit that you take. Add to that the productivity gains that you 
get using jQuery and I had to rethink my initial decision and ended up 
including jQuery in my iPhone project. 

So I'm just curious - where did others fall out on this debate? Of course if 
you're using jQTouch you also need jQuery, but is anyone out there using jQuery 
with iui? I get that iui contains a few helper functions for getting elements 
by class name, etc, but these features pale in comparison to the power of 
jQuery, IMO. 

Rainer

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Behalf Of Remi Grumeau
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Subject: Re: to devlop applications for the iphone

First download the iphone sdk, which includes all needed tools and
specially the iphone simulator.
for native apps: just follow instructions on apple.com and included samples.
for webapps: i would recommand iUI if you want transitions effects or
iwebkit if you don t care and really need a full documentation. They
are both pretty simple to use. JQTouch is just too fat for current
mobile speed and needs you to learn JQuery.
for crappy native app solutions: ask Google about PhoneGap or Titanium :)

2010/3/15, ade <adeib...@gmail.com>:
> appcellerator titanium is also very good as it melds everything into one app
>
> On 15/03/2010 16:46, Derek Williams wrote:
>> TextMate is a good start.  Firebug, or the Chrome tools are also good
>> for debugging javascript, Yes I know firebug is only for firefox, but
>> it can still be helpful.  Use a good library, JQuery and/or one of its
>> derivatives made for mobile platforms (jqtouch, iui).
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:59 AM, rim negra <rim.ne...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:rim.ne...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi
>>     I just need to know which tools should be installed in my Mac book
>>     to be able to devlop applications and web applications for the iphone
>>
>>     Is any body can help me now ??? it's urgent
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