On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, JINMEI Tatuya / [ISO-2022-JP] 神明達哉 wrote:
> So the point is whether it is reasonable to rely on PTRs (+name) for
> access control, rather than about the usage of node information as a
> replacement of PTRs (assuming that PTRs are insecure too).  If we can
> agree to the sense of the "inaddr-required" draft, the usage of node
> information will also be acceptable.  Otherwise, the usage of node
> information will also be unacceptable.

The reality is not always black and white (hence the applicability 
statements..).
 
> In my understanding, draft-ietf-dnsop-inaddr-required-03.txt is based
> on some consensus in the dnsop group, and it seems to me the IESG also
> agrees on this according to a previous message from Thomas.  I
> basically agree, too.  If you think it a FUD, please convince them
> (including me) and make an opposite consensus.

I do not disagree with the conclusions as much as I disagree with the way
they were reached; the draft does not discuss the actual insecurity at
all.  

I'll send specific comments to the draft to dnsop and you later;  unless I
hear otherwise, I'm not sure whether it's useful to include ipng in this
discussion.

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords

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