A gentle reminder.

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Raj Singh <rsjen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Vijay,
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Vijay Devarapalli <vi...@wichorus.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 5/26/09 10:10 PM, "Raj Singh" wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Vijay,
>> >
>> > I have some question on ikev2-redirect-10 draft.
>> >
>> > In section 5,
>> > ------
>> >     Once the client sends an acknowledgment to the gateway, it SHOULD
>> >    delete the existing security associations with the old gateway by
>> >    sending an Informational message with a DELETE payload.  The gateway
>> >    MAY also decide to delete the security associations without any
>> >    signaling from the client, again by sending an Informational message
>> >    with a DELETE payload.  However, it should allow sufficient time for
>> >    the client to setup the required security associations with the new
>> >    security gateway.  This time period should be configurable on the
>> >    gateway.
>> > -------
>> >
>> > Suppose after sending N[REDIRECT] in case of Gateway initiated redirect,
>> > there is a time gap for client to delete old SA and create new SA with
>> > redirected Gateway.
>> >
>> > During this time, IKE REKEY occurs from gateway or client, what should
>> be
>> > the behavior, should it REKEY on old SA or defer the rekey ?
>>
>> The rekey should be deferred. The IKEv2 SA is going to be torn down
>> anyway.
>
> Can you make a mention of this in the draft ? According to me, we can make
> it simple by
> saying that after REDIRECT, IKE SA will be marked for deletion i.e. we will
> send/accept only DELETE informational exchange on that SA.
>
>>
>>
>> > Also, when deleting IKE SA, due to redirect, is there any way to know
>> that
>> > this delete is sue to redirect ?
>>
>> Well, the gateway redirected the client. If following that, there is a
>> delete from the client, the gateway would know that the IKEv2 SA is being
>> deleted because it redirected the client.
>>
>> Anyway, does it matter?
>>
> It does. There is a time gap between REDIRECT and DELETE for the IKE SA. If
> any activity happens during that period due to valid reasons ( REKEY,
> DELETION due to lifetime etc.), we will not be sure what to do ? Also, for
> administrative purpose we need to know that DELETE happened due to REDIRECT
> or valid reasons.
> Accepting only DELETE after REDIRECT solves all these problems.
>
>>
>> Vijay
>>
>> Thanks,
> Raj
>
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