On Mar 26, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Tero Kivinen wrote:

> Yoav Nir writes:
>> This is about my presentation from the IPsecME meeting today (which
>> for some reason is not on the website) 
>> 
>> Anyways, RFC 5266 mentions that "RFC 4306 must be updated to carry
>> ERP messages". This caused some controversy a year ago, but
>> regardless, I did think of a use case, so I partnered with Qin Wu
>> and wrote the draft. 
> 
> RFC5996 says:
> 
>   While this document references [EAP] with the intent that new methods
>   can be added in the future without updating this specification, some
>   simpler variations are documented here.  [EAP] defines an
>   authentication protocol requiring a variable number of messages.
> 
> and
> 
>         A short summary of the EAP format is included here
>   for clarity.
> 
> So my take there is that the EAP description in the RFC5996 is just
> for clarity, and is not meant to be exhaustive, meaning it does not
> limit codes we can use in the EAP messages. 

Agree. That's why my draft calls it "clarification"

> 
> On the other hand RFC5996 also says that:
> 
>   Following such an extended exchange, the EAP AUTH payloads MUST be
>   included in the two messages following the one containing the EAP
>   Success message.
> 
> which means that as ERX uses different message to finish the
> authentication, update to the RFC5996 is needed (i.e. not to allow
> codes 5 and 6, but to say we can have EAP payloads in exchanges where
> they normally do not be and tell that EAP exchange can finish with
> these other codes too).
> 
>> My first priority is for this to become a WG item. It probably needs
>> some work, and there is an open question about whether there is any
>> use case for multiple AAA domains. 
> 
> I agree it could be WG item. On the other hand I also think it might
> be quite fast document, so getting it out as individual rfc might be
> faster.

They're not necessarily faster. What the draft needs is review, especially 
regarding the assumption that multiple AAA domains are not needed. I think WG 
documents get better review, but even that is not really clear.

Yoav

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