Paul, 

Thank you very much for the comment. 
Is it acceptable to use the existing IPsec keys as input to a key derivation 
function (KDF)? The KDF generates unique authentication keys that are 
cryptographically linked to the IPsec keys but not directly exposed.

Linda



-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Wouters <p...@nohats.ca> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 8:59 AM
To: Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@futurewei.com>
Cc: ipsec@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [IPsec] Are there any issues of reusing IPsec key for generating 
Authentication Code?

On Tue, 9 Jul 2024, Linda Dunbar wrote:

>  1. The IPsec tunnel itself provides a secure channel for transmitting the 
> authentication keys. This ensures that the keys
>     are protected from eavesdropping or tampering during distribution.
>  2. Reuse the existing IPsec keys as input to a key derivation function 
> (KDF). The KDF generates unique authentication keys
>     that are cryptographically linked to the IPsec keys but not directly 
> exposed. This adds a layer of protection, even if
>     the IPsec keys are compromised.

Re-using keys for different purposes is not recommend on principle. Some 
certifications (eg FIPS) also forbid dual use of the same key(pair).

Paul

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