update/obsolete RFC 8247

From: John Mattsson <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, 7 December 2024 at 09:55
To: Rebecca Guthrie <[email protected]>, Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) 
<[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: Kampanakis, Panos <[email protected]>, Tero Kivinen <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2-09.txt
Rebecca Guthrie wrote:
>I expected to see an adoption call issued before Dublin

+1

In addition to adopting and publishing this we also need to update/obsolete to 
make ML-KEM MUST implement.

Cheers,
John

From: Rebecca Guthrie <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 6 December 2024 at 18:47
To: Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) <[email protected]>, 
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Cc: John Mattsson <[email protected]>, Kampanakis, Panos 
<[email protected]>, Tero Kivinen <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2-09.txt
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+1; I expected to see an adoption call issued before Dublin after several folks 
expressed support for a call (following 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/G-7lcrHXSm60gjvY4UupBCiBlwM/)

Rebecca

Rebecca Guthrie
she/her
Center for Cybersecurity Standards (CCSS)
Cybersecurity Collaboration Center (CCC)
National Security Agency (NSA)

From: Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 3:28 PM
To: Rebecca Guthrie (GOV) <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Cc: John Mattsson <[email protected]>; Kampanakis, Panos 
<[email protected]>
Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2-09.txt

Going over this again: is there a specific reason we should *not* adopt this 
draft?  We (at least, the people concerned about PQ security) need it, and I do 
not see any downsides to this straightforward draft.

If there are no objections, what do we do to move this draft forward?

From: Rebecca Guthrie 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2024 6:09 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: John Mattsson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Scott Fluhrer 
(sfluhrer) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Kampanakis, Panos 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2-09.txt

I also support working group adoption

Rebecca Guthrie
she/her
Center for Cybersecurity Standards (CCSS)
Cybersecurity Collaboration Center (CCC)
National Security Agency (NSA)

From: John Mattsson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2024 5:30 PM
To: Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
 Kampanakis, Panos 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [IPsec] Re: New Version Notification for 
draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2-09.txt

>I would like to second the request to make this a working group item.
+1

From: Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Monday, 4 November 2024 at 18:23
To: Kampanakis, Panos 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [IPsec] Re: New Version Notification for 
draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2-09.txt
I would like to second the request to make this a working group item.

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> From: Kampanakis, Panos 
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> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: [IPsec] FW: New Version Notification for draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-
> ikev2-09.txt
>
> FYI, draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2-09 incorporates the last feedback for the
> -08 version except for the test vectors which I will add later.
>
> I would like to ask the WG to finalize the decision about leaving the draft 
> as-is
> and using the already assigned OIDs or adopting it as an IPSECME WG item.
>
>
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> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2-09.txt has
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> Name:     draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2
> Revision: 09
> Title:    Post-quantum Hybrid Key Exchange with ML-KEM in the Internet Key
> Exchange Protocol Version 2 (IKEv2)
> Date:     2024-11-04
> Group:    Individual Submission
> Pages:    10
> URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2-09.txt
> Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2/
> HTML:     
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> ikev2
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> ikev2-09
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> Abstract:
>
>    NIST recently standardized ML-KEM, a new key encapsulation mechanism,
>    which can be used for quantum-resistant key establishment.  This
>    draft specifies how to use ML-KEM as an additional key exchange in
>    IKEv2 along with traditional key exchanges.  This Post-Quantum
>    Traditional Hybrid Key Encapsulation Mechanism approach allows for
>    negotiating IKE and Child SA keys which are safe against
>    cryptanalytically-relevant quantum computers and theoretical
>    weaknesses in ML-KEM.
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