Thanks for the review, raised PR
https://github.com/smyslov/ikev2-reliable-transport/pull/11 to address it.

-Tiru

On Thu, 21 May 2026 at 02:47, Blue Dog <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I reviewed draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-reliable-transport-04 with a focus on
> deployment behavior when IKEv2 uses a reliable transport for large
> exchanges while ESP remains on UDP or direct IP transport where possible.
>
> I think the mechanism is useful, especially for post-quantum migration,
> where large key exchange payloads can make unreliable IKE transport
> operationally fragile. I have one suggested clarification for the
> operational and security considerations around ESP reachability
> verification and fallback behavior.
>
> Section 3.7 requires the initiator to verify ESP reachability when IKEv2
> starts over TCP and to delete and re-establish the IKE SA without proposing
> separate transport if ESP reachability cannot be confirmed. That behavior
> is clear, but the security and operational framing could be made more
> explicit:
>
>    - Active path interference with ESP reachability can bias the endpoint
>    toward re-establishment behavior or fallback to carrying ESP over TCP. This
>    appears to be primarily an availability and performance concern, rather
>    than a confidentiality downgrade, assuming IKEv2 authentication and Child
>    SA establishment remain intact.
>    - Implementations should provide policy control over whether fallback
>    is acceptable in a given deployment. For some deployments, “fail closed”
>    may be preferable to automatic fallback if separate ESP transport is
>    required by local policy.
>    - Repeated ESP reachability failures after successful IKE negotiation
>    should be visible to operators, for example through rate-limited logs or
>    counters. Otherwise, the failure mode may be difficult to diagnose and may
>    be misinterpreted as a generic tunnel-establishment problem.
>    - Operators should not infer the ESP transport policy solely from the
>    IKE transport. If IKE over TCP is enabled to accommodate large post-quantum
>    exchanges, the resulting ESP transport behavior should remain explicit in
>    configuration and documentation.
>
> Possible text:
>
> Failure to confirm ESP reachability when IKEv2 is carried over TCP can be
> caused by benign path filtering or by active interference with the ESP
> path. Such interference does not by itself weaken IKEv2 authentication or
> the negotiated Child SA cryptographic protection, but it can affect
> availability and can cause implementations to re-establish the IKE SA using
> the fallback behavior described above. Implementations SHOULD make this
> condition visible to operators, and deployments SHOULD define whether
> fallback to ESP over TCP is acceptable or whether the SA establishment
> should fail according to local policy.
>
> This would help operators distinguish cryptographic downgrade concerns
> from availability/performance fallback behavior, while preserving the
> protocol behavior already described in the draft.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Songbo Bu
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