Well if I ping from the server or anywhere else on the network it resolves
to the internal IP of the host machine. If I ping from outside the network
it is, of course, going to return the public ip which is mapped thru to the
same internal IP. There's no way to return the same IP from outside the
network. That's the basic function of a firewall. So then what roll does the
NAT Gateway Host play. If it is the external IP then it is likewise
unreachable by the host server. If it is an instruction to the program that
data coming from that IP is acceptable then I cannot get it to make a
difference. Is it necessary to restart the server or reboot the whole
machine after changing these settings??? It doesn't matter what I put in
there the response if the program is the same.
That response is: If I initiate a conversation from within the network to a
client outside the network everything is fine. But if a client outside the
network initiates a conversation then a client inside the network will see
their traffic but cannot respond. Also, the external client does not see
their traffic echoed in their window. Now when two clients outside the
network try to communicate it gets really interesting. Each must initiate a
conversation to the other. Client 1 will have to talk to client 2 via the
connection it established and client 2 will have to respond over the
conversation it established. So you must read from one window and talk in
the other.

Anybody got any thoughts on this??


James


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Herschel
Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IpswitchIM_Forum] NAT Problems and Solutions


After reading the several posts regarding the difficulties setting IM server
up in a network that is behind a firewall performing NAT.  I figured I'd
drop a bit of information out here and hopefully clear things up.  There are
a few very important things to remember.  First and foremost, the NAT
gateway host, for best results, should be the external IP of the NAT device
(ie. whatever your domain name resolves to from outside the network).
Secondly, you MUST be forwarding all traffic for TCP port 5177 to the
machine running IM Server.  Another important piece of information is that
the host name and domain name of the server (found in TCP/IP properties) CAN
NOT be the same as the host name and domain of the NAT device.  When you are
creating user accounts for IM, the user account must reflect the public host
name, example:  the domain name of the server is IM.Domain.com, then users
will have to log on as [EMAIL PROTECTED] to successfully authenticate.  The
final thing coming to mind is that for all users inside and outside to
communicate successfully, there are 3 places to ping from...outside the
network, inside the network, and from the server itself.  You will need to
ping the host name that the users are logging onto (IM.domain.com), and from
all three of these places, that hostname must resolve to the same IP
address.

Keep in mind also, that if your clients are also behind a firewall, they
will need to enable client uses NAT on their local machine.  This can be
found in the registry at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ipswitch\Messenger\Version 1.0\Settings.  You
will see a value "client uses nat" and will need to change that integer to
1.

Should this be a tad unclear (I tend to get that way from time to time), in
the help for server manager, search for NAT and it will give detailed
instructions with screenshots that may be a bit more helpful.

If all the above is correct, there are very few instances that clients
inside the network will not be able to chat with clients outside the
network.  Should there be any other questions, you can always go to
http://askatech.ipswitch.com and fill out the support form.  Please be as
detailed as possible when sending your support request.  We are here to help
you as much as possible, so don't hesitate to drop support a line.

-HJ


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