Brian,
>I would also encourage Arun and anyone from the ATM
>Forum who is interested in IPv6 addresses in NSAP to submit a draft
>on the issue.  If there is interest from the WG, I would support
>that work being done here.

Ok, I will initiate work on preapring a draft on the issue and submiting it, soon. 
Based on the response/interest/comments to this draft, suitable way forward as seen 
fit could then be taken-up. Anybody from ATM Forum interested in the issue is welcome 
to join in.

Regards,
Arun.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Haberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 7:54 PM
To: Brian E Carpenter
Cc: Pandey, Arun; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IPv6 addresses inside an NSAPA issues


Brian,
      As one co-chair, I would support the effort to move RFC 1888
to Historic.  I would also encourage Arun and anyone from the ATM
Forum who is interested in IPv6 addresses in NSAP to submit a draft
on the issue.  If there is interest from the WG, I would support
that work being done here.

Regards,
Brian

Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> Arun,
> 
> 1888 is an Experimental RFC that contains health warnings that it
> won't work, and as far as I know nobody has ever attempted to
> implement it. There also is some interest in the ATM Forum in the
> mapping of IP addresses inside NSAP addresses, but that is another
> story.
> 
> My opinion as the main author of 1888 is that it is well overdue
> to be downgraded to Historic, but I was hoping to see a draft from
> the ATM people that updates the small part of it that they need, which
> is also the part you are interested in.
> 
> Without really thinking about it, and with my OSI knowledge having
> ten years' rust on it, it seems to me that port numbers belong in
> the TSAP address, not the NSAP address. But since I have no idea
> why anyone would care, I'd prefer that we simply downgrade the
> RFC and forget about. Could I ask whether the WG would support
> that? If so the chairs could request the IESG to do it.
> 
> Then people interested in the section 'IPv6 addresses inside an NSAPA'
> (i.e. you and the ATM Forum) could deal with this as you see fit.
> 
> Regards
>     Brian
> 
> 
> Pandey, Arun wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> RFC 1888 section 'IPv6 addresses inside an NSAPA' does not provide a 
>> way to put the tcp port number inside the NSAP. Whereas for IPv4 
>> addresses `RFC 1277 section 4.5  - TCP/IP Network Specific Format` 
>> specified a format that allowed the port number to be also specified. 
>> For certain applications like the 'OSI Directory services' working in 
>> a internet environment it might be required to store and pass the tcp 
>> port number along with the IPv6 address.
>> Also RFC 1278 that specified a string representation for the 
>> presentation address, doesn't seem to have been updated for specifying 
>> a string representation for the presentation address to carry IPv6 
>> addresses. The various proposed representations do make space for 
>> specifying the port number along with the IPv6 address in the 
>> Presentation Address.
>>
>> This seems to create a situation that if an application is to encode 
>> the NSAP, specified in the string representation of the presentation 
>> address, as per RFC 1888, it will not be able to encode the port 
>> number [if present] along with the IPv6 address, in the NSAPA. This 
>> will force the application to store the port number [if present] in an 
>> alternate location.
>>
>> If the application now wants to transfer this encoded Presentation 
>> Address to another application:
>>
>> 1) Both the applications would need to agree on an alternate field 
>> where to specify the port number, to be able     to reconstruct the 
>> original presentation address.
>> or
>> 2) The applications will have to agree on transferring the string 
>> encoding of the presentation address to each other. But     even for 
>> that the string representation of the presentation address for 
>> carrying the IPv6 address needs to be agreed     upon first.
>> or
>> 3) A encoding format for IPv6 addresses inside an NSAPA would need to 
>> be specified that would allow the carriage of    the port number along 
>> with the IPv6 address inside an NSAPA.
>>
>> Each of the above alternatives has its own set of implications. What 
>> do others think?  Any opinions or suggestions will be highly appreciated.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Arun Pandey
>>
>>
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