Tim - I agree 100% with your message. - Ralph
On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 10:09 -0700, Tim Hartrick wrote: > > Bob, > > On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 09:48, Bob Hinden wrote: > > > > Part of me is starting to think that we might be better off waiting for > > there to be more operational experience with deployments of DHCPv6 to see > > how much confusion there really is. I agree it is good for vendors to > > implement similar knobs, but I wonder how much of a problem there really is. > > > > More than part of me is thinking this. It seems to me that there is a > continuing confusion about how these bits interact with local decisions > by the administrator of a specific machine or network. People are > asking questions like "What happens if the M and/or O bits are clear but > there is a DHCP server?" or "What happens if the M and/or O bits are > clear but the client wants to use DHCP anyway" or "What happens if the M > and/or O bits are set and the client doesn't want to run DHCP". None of > these questions are in the realm of protocol design. Clearly, local > administrators will do as they please with their machines. In this > respect the M and O bits have never been anything but strong hints as to > what the client should do. The client is always free to ignore the > hints. Further network administrators are free to misconfigure their > networks as they please. The current text describing these bits is > clear almost to the point of being infantile. This isn't an indictment > of the authors. Rather it is an indictment of attempts to enforce > system configuration and management rules via protocol specifications. > This is impossible. We should stop trying. > > > > > tim > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
