On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 23:42 +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote: > Pars Mutaf wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have updated my HUMID internet draft entitled: > > > > "Human-regenerable IPv6 interface identifiers and addresses" > > > > Until it appears at the IETF site, you can find it at the > > following address if you're interested: > > > > http://www.freewebs.com/pmutaf/draft-mutaf-ipv6humid-01.txt > > [don't read this as an overly negative reply...]
Hi Jeroen, > Why don't you: ping6 ff02::1 Because when you do that, you got a lot replies. You don't know who is who. > and then ssh into the server that has your DNS server running and fix it > up? Or, why not use mDNS (http://www.multicastdns.org/) or SMB/CIFS > nameresolution? Without DNS you have no network nowadays anyway. I believe the DNS server may be down (routing is independent). But if you don't agree, there are a lot of other things that may go wrong. Take the MIPv6 home agent, it may be unreachable. You can't get the destination's care-of-address. Only the home agent knows it, and it is unreachable. Or, simply, there is no internet infrastructure in range. (please let me know when you finish reading the draft ;-) > Solving your missing DNS problem by (ab)using a large portion of the > EUI-64 space is not something I think is very useful. Why do you think I'm (ab)using the EUI-64 space? We already have random addresses. I missed something? > It is a fun > approach, but not very useful in common cases. I'm glad that you find that funny. But I'm really serious here ;-) It is very useful in uncommon cases. > The 'name generation' is per definition flawed. You are too much generalizing imho. > Quite a number of people > on this planet don't have names that map into ASCII, or when mapped > according to your rules would maybe only have 4 letters over creating a > collision. I completely agree with you. I tried to make something universal. But I immediately realized that I have to learn spanish, chinese, etc... I dont even know if there is a white space in chinese language. Some people are talented for learning foreign languages. I'm not like them. Then, I decided to take it easy. I'm proposing this for the ASCII character set. If there is an interest, if possible, we can extend it. > Next to that if you mistype "jeanfrancoisleroux", which is > quite easy to do eg "johnfranslaroeks" ;) Frankly I've no problem with typing jean francois le roux. Please note that, you don't have to know all names in the world! I'm sure there are a number of human names that you know typing correctly (family, colleages, friends...). In this case, HUMID is useful for you. > Or simple case, my own name, > people tend to even say "jereon" or "jeroem" or "joeren", let alone the > problem with pronunciation and then how people tend to write it ;) > Then again, only dutch folks seem to be able to pronounce it correctly. Good for them. Bad for the others. In fact, I don't think human is that stupid. We (humans) know in general that we might have done a mistake somewhere. The initiator will try: jereon massar jeroem massar joeren massar and finally contact you at jeroen massar! (hopefully) Try to see this like a human scanning protocol. It may find you, or it may fail. I say it will mostly succeed. > Another issue I see is simply the case of 'forgetting the name'. People > who can't fixup a DNS server, or use SMB/CIFS naming or similar tools > also tend to forget their passwords and logins. Do they then all of a > sudden have the availability of a SHA tool which directly converts the > names in to those name addresses? Most people don't even have the > ip6_arpa.pl script handy to lookup revers IPv6 DNS names ;) I couldn't understand your point. The host will do everything for the user. The user is only asked to enter the name. Greets, pars > Greets, > Jeroen > -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
