David,

good point indeed.

perhaps it is time for the IETF to acknowledge the fact that these link types 
are common and to take a more architectural and wide approach to solving and 
adapting its protocols to this subnet model.

I'm concerned that we are standardising point solutions without understanding 
the problem. and I disagree with the chairs consensus call. (not that I 
necessarily think there are alternatives, but I'd like to see a big warning 
banner somewhere, not just a "we need to fix a few nits before last calling it).

cheers,
Ole


On Oct 28, 2010, at 23:58 , David Allan I wrote:

> A quick comment on the soapbox statement...
> 
> <soapbox statement>: I'm biased against this subnet model (N:1)... recreating 
> PPP functionality over Ethernet, trying to create user isolation on a shared 
> IPv6 link, which after all IPv6 protocols are not designed for.
> 
> I appreciate the IETF has been kind of blind to this but this kind of 
> asymmetric Ethernet subnet is actually much more prevalent and been around 
> longer than you might think. In Metro Ethernet Forum terms it is known as an 
> E-TREE, support for which is being discussed by the IETF L2VPN WG. IEEE 
> 802.1ad(2005?) documents one possible means of implementing this in the form 
> of Asymmetric VID (which I think is also known as private VLAN) and this has 
> been carried forward into 802.1ah PBB/.1aq SPB. 
> 
> There is also physical media that behaves like this in the form of passive 
> optical networks, which are p2p to the root and broadcast to the leaves. GPON 
> and EPON becoming a very prevalent broadband deployment model.... 
> 
> BBF TR101(2006) is simply one instantiation of a useful construct that has 
> been around for years...and if anything will become much more common over 
> time...
> 
> Cheers
> Dave

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