On May 10, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Mark D Mobile wrote:

> Boy Alex, I was hoping someone on the list had the answer.  It was the sort 
> of noise that pervades the entire band; definitely not sparkling 
> atmospherics, just a continuous noise.  It varied from day to day; Sunday for 
> example it had dropped a few db.
> 
> Wish I knew more about the relationship of this sort of noise to solar noise 
> effects.  Thom, do you have any thoughts?
> 
> 
> Mark Durenberger
> On the road
> 
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> From: "Alex P" <winston...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:52 PM
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> <irca@hard-core-dx.com>; <m...@yahoogroups.com>; "Putrich Greg" 
> <gr...@n0qds.org>; "DX @NRC" <a...@nrcdxas.org>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Beverage Antenna in Utah Part Two
> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> Was wondering about the high noise level. Would you have an opinion on it's 
>> origin?
>> Alex
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mark D Mobile <ma...@durenberger.com>
>> To: m...@yahoogroups.com; Putrich Greg <gr...@n0qds.org>; DX-IRCA 
>> <irca@hard-core-dx.com>; "DX @NRC" <a...@nrcdxas.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 5:23 PM
>> Subject: [IRCA] Beverage Antenna in Utah Part Two
>> 
>> REPORT 2:   We concluded our work on Monday 5/7 and 'struck the set'.  SDR 
>> recordings had been made over several evenings on both the elevated Beverage 
>> and the BOG (1800 feet).  Mike's suggested antenna azimuth was validated by 
>> the high number of stations received in the corridor: Eastern 
>> Washington--Western Montana.  I'll post the catch-list later as we look for 
>> the unlikely Alaska catches.  I say unlikely BECAUSE:
>> 
>> In addition to the weather issues we encountered an abnormally high noise 
>> level throughout the weekend.  With the bandwidth we used (6 khz), the SDRs 
>> were displaying noise around -75 to -80 dbm.  (I'm used to Beverage noise 
>> floors below -110.)  This was one difficulty we just couldn't overcome.  The 
>> noise (certainly QRN) was broadband and continuous, as opposed to the spiky 
>> stuff you hear when it's primarily atmospherics.
>> 
>> Other measurements involved switching an SDR between the elevated Bev and 
>> the BOG and recording signal levels; both broadband and narrowband.  These 
>> results and other data will be published later.  To be determined on further 
>> playback is whether the BOG was performing as an electrically-longer antenna 
>> than the elevated...on this very dry desert floor.
>> 
>> On one occasion when we lit up in daytime we heard a rhythmic interference 
>> spike several db above that dreaded broadband noise.  Of interest is that 
>> this noise was greatly reduced when we switched from the elevated to the BOG.
>> 
>> The single-wire remote beverage terminator worked very well, as noted 
>> earlier.
>> 
>> 
>> Further Facts Follow From us Fools in the Field.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Durenberger
>> On the road
>> 
>> 
>> From: Mark D Mobile
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:22 AM
>> 
>> .REPORT 1:
>> 
>> My friend Mike and I set up two 1800-foot Beverages in the Eastern Utah
>> desert...one is a BOG and the other elevated about 3 feet.  Beverages are at
>> 320 degrees; we're looking for Alaska.   Counterpoises on the ends are four
>> 300-foot radials of copper supplemented by ground rods.
>> 
>> The new single-wire remote termination control has proved a great success.
>> Even though the DC resistance on our dry-desert-earth path measures close to
>> 2 megohms (!) the 'current amplifier' works well and drives a Vactrol for
>> ideal termination.  (Of course "ideal" is only for one frequency but the SDR
>> does a nice job of showing the overall front-to-back changes.)
>> 
>> We already know that it's working...those of you who've been in this area
>> know how tough it can be to remove KOB 770 in favor of KTTH, and KOKC in
>> favor of KKXA, without phasing...using only the F-B termination.
>> 
>> Today's work will include measurements (with two SDRs) comparing the
>> elevated Beverage and the BOG, logging RF levels across the MW band in
>> various conditions of connectivity.  Of particular interest is what we learn
>> when the BOG (running directly under the elevated wire) is used as a
>> counterpoise.  Audio reports will appear on DXAS.
>> 
>> The weather has been semi-adverse.  Nice temps...but strong winds have meant
>> DUST!  Today however appears a bit more benign.
>> 
>> We hope to share today's results in the next report.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Durenberger
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