Thanks KAZ, Your comments are greatly appreciated. Bill W. and I have been comparing DU-DXing results for years now, and we both have a lot of respect for each other's antennas (he has been using a DKAZ in various wide-open areas, while I've been using FSL's at cliff-side locations). The larger FSL's are completely different animals than any broadband loop, and seem to have a low-band sensitivity advantage related to their single-optimized-frequency tuning capability. But this "advantage" is incompatible with spectrum-capture receivers like the Perseus-SDR, and as such the FSL's are not likely to become popular with the vast majority of transoceanic DXpeditioners. As we have shown at Rockwork 4, however, they can provide some high sensitivity on priority low-band frequencies, and with additional design improvements they could possibly become the tool of choice to go after extremely exotic, weak DX when assisted by an ocean cliff propagation boost. 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA)
----- Original Message ----- From: "neilkaz" <[email protected]> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 7:29:38 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] 531-More FM (2 kW) in Alexandra, NZ Received at Rockwork 4 That was a great idea. Since your huge FSL is a great tuned circuit as well and provides tremendous coupling to your ULR's loopstick, you can likely better work the really low channels where even large loop antennas don't have great sensitivity. 73 and good work.. KAZ -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >Sent: Jul 17, 2015 5:46 PM >To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America ><[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [IRCA] 531-More FM (2 kW) in Alexandra, NZ Received at Rockwork >4 > >Thanks Patrick, > >Yes, 531 kHz is a real DU circus now. Besides PI and More FM from New Zealand, >there are 4KZ, 2PM and 3GG from Australia. It's almost like a "Graveyard >channel" from the South Pacific, which is why I tried remote recording of the >531 frequency last month at the cliff. > >Gary > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Patrick Martin" <[email protected]> >To: "IRCA" <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 3:26:57 PM >Subject: Re: [IRCA] 531-More FM (2 kW) in Alexandra, NZ Received at Rockwork >4 > >Great catch Gary. Back in the early 80s, they were common here, but that was >before the frequency got more crowded. > >Patrick Martin >Seaside OR >KGED QSL Manager > >> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 12:05:10 -0500 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] 531-More FM (2 kW) in Alexandra, NZ Received at >> Rockwork 4 >> >> Fantastic catch when one considers the power and QRM and that this is from >> inland far down the South Island. 73 and congratz .. KAZ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: [email protected] >> >Sent: Jul 17, 2015 11:02 AM >> >To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America >> ><[email protected]> >> >Subject: Re: [IRCA] 531-More FM (2 kW) in Alexandra, NZ Received at >> >Rockwork 4 >> > >> >Hi Nick, >> >Thanks for sharing the Grayland results, and thanks also for the time and >> >effort that you and Bruce spent in setting up the A/B antenna tests. >> > >> >The Rockwork propagation on Friday morning (6-26) didn't seem very >> >impressive at first, with some apparent hangover from the solar storm >> >earlier in the week. 531 was an all-Kiwi frequency throughout the session, >> >with (5 kW) PI the only station audible from 1140-1228. Suddenly the More >> >FM signal rose up out of the noise to take over the 531 frequency for a >> >clear ID at 1230, only to fall back into the noise under PI a couple of >> >minutes later. Chuck was with me at the time, but I don't know if he >> >recorded any of this. The 15" FSL which received 531-More FM was set up >> >with an Ultralight radio to record remotely, so I had no idea that anything >> >special had been received until last night, when two more hours of 531 >> >recordings were finally reviewed (feeling a little like a Perseus-SDR DXer >> >this morning). >> > >> >73, Gary (with another 4 hours of 531 recordings to go through) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> > >> >From: "Nick Hall-Patch" <[email protected]> >> >To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" >> ><[email protected]> >> >Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 7:51:57 AM >> >Subject: Re: [IRCA] 531-More FM (2 kW) in Alexandra, NZ Received at >> >Rockwork 4 >> > >> >Very nice catch Gary. I checked the Grayland >> >files for that time....and not only are you are >> >the first to hear it, you're the only one so >> >far. I was still coming to terms with the >> >Grayland noise level then, and 531 was a mess. >> > >> >best wishes, >> > >> >Nick >> > >> > >> >At 08:09 17-07-15, you wrote: >> >>Hello All,  While continuing to sort through 7 >> >>hours of 531 recordings made during the Rockwork >> >>4 DXpedition a real gem was uncovered-- a >> >>vibrant ID of a long-term target, the 2 kW More >> >>FM station in Alexandra. This low-power station >> >>rarely has a chance on the cliff because of >> >>531-PI's overwhelming presence-- and its strong >> >>appearance for this MP3 may have been due to the >> >>tail end of auroral propagation on June 26th. >> >> >> >>https://app.box.com/s/g3j1fyusrvmekq5iem0pawnrzl806tpw >> >>  531-More FM is not in the Grayland Master >> >>log, and was not one of Chuck's 87 Kiwi stations >> >>received last July. As such, it is apparently >> >>an all-time west coast first.  73 and Good DX, >> >>Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) >> >>  >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>IRCA mailing list [email protected] >> >>http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> >>Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing >> >>list are those of the original contributors and >> >>do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >> >>IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >> >>For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >> >>To Post a message: [email protected] >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >IRCA mailing list >> >[email protected] >> >http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> > >> >Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >> >original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >> >IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >> > >> >For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >> > >> >To Post a message: [email protected] >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >IRCA mailing list >> >[email protected] >> >http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> > >> >Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >> >original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >> >IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >> > >> >For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >> > >> >To Post a message: [email protected] >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IRCA mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >> >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >> >> To Post a message: [email protected] >> > >_______________________________________________ >IRCA mailing list >[email protected] >http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > >Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original >contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its >editors, publishing staff, or officers > >For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > >To Post a message: [email protected] > > >_______________________________________________ >IRCA mailing list >[email protected] >http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > >Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original >contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its >editors, publishing staff, or officers > >For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > >To Post a message: [email protected] > _______________________________________________ IRCA mailing list [email protected] http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: [email protected] _______________________________________________ IRCA mailing list [email protected] http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: [email protected]
