Gary,

as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I did it for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as: "Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at about 15 seconds.

As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB clip in this message.

Now if someone would write 'open' all those Mongolian, Tibetan and other IDs, that are heard from China on MW.

Hope this helps,

Mauno


Gary DeBock kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 8:40:
Chris,

Thanks very much for your investigation of the 783 kHz UnID Chinese station 
identity. 783-Voice of the Straight is the strongest Asian TP on the band both 
in the morning and evening here, and it plays an incredible variety of music 
(Chinese opera, pop, instrumentals, and even rap :-)

<<< Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. 
It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it sounds.
1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean it doesn't 
exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, you can hear them 
broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge 
consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as well) and most Chinese-language 
music in those genres originates there, so it makes sense they're throwing some of it 
their way.Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. 
It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it sounds. 
>>>

Well, when a government has absolute power they certainly have the prerogative 
to change their minds or modify laws as desired, don't they? My wife is Hong 
Kong Chinese, and she always tells me that laws don't mean anything in China, 
where the government can do anything it wishes. But sometimes I wonder how many 
Taiwan residents actually listen to these mono-format music broadcasts with a 
heavy propaganda edge? When you lived in Seoul, were the people rushing to turn 
on the Voice of Unification after their 12-hour work days? I think not. But to 
be honest, the programming from Pyongyang BS and KCBS is so ridiculous that it 
is actually pretty amusing, and I would be sorry if this type of amusement 
suddenly disappeared from the radio scene.

Gary (in Poipu, Hawaii)


On November 4, 2018 at 2:21 PM Chris Kadlec <beagleb...@beaglebass.com> wrote:


     Gary,

     Your 783 you've been hearing has been confirmed as Voice of the Straits 
broadcasting in Amoy, as I was suspecting (since it was the only high-powered 
one left). My friend in Guangdong, who can hear all of those stations nearby 
and can understand Amoy, listened to it and confirmed it for you.

     Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the 
Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice 
as it sounds.

     1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean 
it doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, 
you can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed at 
Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as 
well) and most Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it 
makes sense they're throwing some of it their way.

     2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" (Allen Su took 2nd place in 
the 2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music contest show in China). Its lyrics are about the highest 
level of propaganda you could spew at your enemy across the water because it speaks everything 
great about Beijing. It's EXACTLY what Seoul broadcasts on Jayu FM into North Korea (I included a 
hefty chunk of the song in my Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide documentary), a song called 
"Seoul Seoul" that says all the same great things about Seoul sorta. The difference is 
that it was used for the '88 Olympics, but the idea behind using that suitable song for propaganda 
is the same.

     The Beijing song is here, lyrics included:

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4jTf_WaAl8

     -Chris Kadlec

     ***

     Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST)

     From: Gary DeBock <d1028g...@comcast.net>

     To: Chris Kadlec <beagleb...@beaglebass.com>, irca@hard-core-dx.com

     Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

     Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, Chris, and also on 
the 801 jammer (or lack thereof).

     Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing paradise, 
783-China and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the S9+ leaders every morning. 
This is a major reversal from the Kona, Hawaii situation last December, when 
819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 were far and away the top dogs.

     When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 783-China at 1541 UTC 
yesterday, I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese copy of Korean rap 
artists like Leessang :-)

     https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3ppoz

     Gary

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