On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Markus Schaber <m.scha...@codesys.com> wrote:
> Hi, Jeff,
>
> Let me add some thoughts out of my view (I'm managing the IronPython script 
> interpreter hosted within the CODESYS IDE):
>
>> In a world with NuGet, it makes
>> less and less sense to have it installed in the GAC *at all* except in rare
>> cases (such as SharePoint or SQL Server that require it).
>
> NuGet is not really appropriate for our own build system and workflows (which 
> are established between us and our OEMs since years before NuGet appeared). 
> :-(
>
> (OT: Just to prevent questions: Our Home-Grown "Automation Platform" 
> framework predates MEF, MAF, NuGet and several other, now wide-spread 
> technologies by years, and it is not easy to replace them as we need to 
> strongly respect backwards compatibility for our OEMs which modify and adapt 
> our product. :-)

Don't worry, the zip files won't be going away. I do expect most
embedders to move to NuGet over time, though.

>
>
>> In 2.7.5, the version will change to 2.7.5.0. The new installer will include
>> a publisher policy file in the GAC that binds the new version to anything
>> trying to load 2.7.0.40 (i.e. 2.7.4 and earlier). This is actually no
>> different than it would be if the version number stayed the same, it's just
>> more obvious what is happening.
>>
>> The reason for the change comes to anything built against 2.7.5 - it will no
>> longer accidentally load an older version of IronPython (you may still get a
>> newer one, if there ever is a 2.7.6; I'm still sorting out what policy files
>> allow). Had I known about publisher policy back in 2011 I doubt I would have
>> stuck with the same version the whole time.
>
> I'm not sure whether those publisher policy is a good thing. We need to make 
> sure that the whole dependency tree (IronPython, IronPython.Modules and the 
> various DLR assemblies) always are guaranteed to match.

The policy files will only redirect 2.7.0.40 to whatever the latest
version is. They won't redirect 2.7.5 to 2.7.6.

>
> Another bunch of problems might arise when we run upgraded IronPython 
> libraries against an older standard library - we ship the (Iron)Python 
> standard library in our own directory (currently 2.7.4), and I'm not sure 
> whether there might be problems when those python files run against a newer 
> (2.7.5, 2.7.6?) version of the IronPython interpreter.
>
> Is there any way a hosting application can influence the publisher policy 
> programmatically?

Not programmatically, but I think the binding redirects in the
app.config file can override the publisher policy.

Thanks for the input. I knew that your team was impacted by this and
forcing custom builds is not satisfactory from my point of view.

- Jeff
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