Just FYI: https://bitbucket.org/pypy/numpy
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Slide <slide.o....@gmail.com> wrote: > Moving this discussion on numpy into its own thread so searching for it > will be easier for folks in the future. > thank you. > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM Uncle Meat <3000....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> OK, I was able to track down some source code for the NumpyDotNet >> project. It looks like some people did a lot of work on this: >> https://github.com/numpy/numpy-refactor >> I'm not sure what state it's in or even if it builds. I'm not sure who >> did the .NET portion (I think it was Enthought) but it looks like the >> "refactor" branch includes/inherits the numpy license. >> >> Steve >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Uncle Meat <3000....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> You can still get the install binaries and Python code here: >>> https://store.enthought.com/repo/.iron/ but you have to create a login >>> at the Enthought site. Looks like the key to this is the NumpyDotNet dlls >>> that I cant locate. Maybe we can ask Enthought if they'd like to open >>> source it (or maybe this is just a dead end)? >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 1:59 AM, Markus Schaber <m.scha...@codesys.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At a first glance, IronLab looks nice. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The License is LGPL, so I think it cannot be part of the main >>>> IronPython distribution. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> OTOH, they’re using “NumPy and SciPY for IronPython / .NET” which seems >>>> abandoned, but used to be maintained by the PTVS people: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://pytools.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=NumPy%20and%20SciPy%20for%20.Net >>>> >>>> However, I could not locate the source repository of those libraries… >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Btw, I found a serious drawback on my previous suggestion to use >>>> C++/CLI: It’s hardly platform independent that way, as there’s no C++/CLI >>>> Compiler (yet) which works on non-windows platforms. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Markus Schaber >>>> >>>> *CODESYS®* a trademark of 3S-Smart Software Solutions GmbH >>>> >>>> *Inspiring Automation Solutions * >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> 3S-Smart Software Solutions GmbH >>>> Dipl.-Inf. 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Any >>>> unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this >>>> e-mail is strictly forbidden.* >>>> >>>> *From:* Uncle Meat [mailto:3000....@gmail.com] >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:32 PM >>>> *To:* Markus Schaber >>>> *Cc:* Haymo Kutschbach; Tim Orling; ironpython-users@python.org >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ironpython-users] Community Meeting >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A project exists called IronLab (https://github.com/rwg0/ironlab) that >>>> works with both numpy and scipy. Maybe we can leverage what was done in >>>> IronLab to support numpy? I think it uses the code developed by Enthought, >>>> not sure if it's OSS. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Markus Schaber <m.scha...@codesys.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Another way might be to use C++/CLI and the NumPy sources to directly >>>> write a .NET wrapper for NumPy, with the API optimized for the IronPython >>>> use case. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Might be more work, but AFAICS, should give the best results >>>> (performance-wise). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Markus Schaber >>>> >>>> *CODESYS®* a trademark of 3S-Smart Software Solutions GmbH >>>> >>>> *Inspiring Automation Solutions * >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> 3S-Smart Software Solutions GmbH >>>> Dipl.-Inf. Markus Schaber | Product Development Core Technology >>>> Memminger Str. 151 | 87439 Kempten | Germany >>>> Tel. +49-831-54031-979 | Fax +49-831-54031-50 >>>> >>>> E-Mail: m.scha...@codesys.com | Web: codesys.com >>>> <http://www.codesys.com> | CODESYS store: store.codesys.com >>>> CODESYS forum: forum.codesys.com >>>> >>>> *Managing Directors: Dipl.Inf. Dieter Hess, Dipl.Inf. Manfred Werner* >>>> | *Trade register: Kempten HRB 6186* | *Tax ID No.: DE 167014915* >>>> * ------------------------------ * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If >>>> you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) >>>> please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any >>>> unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this >>>> e-mail is strictly forbidden.* >>>> >>>> *From:* Ironpython-users [mailto:ironpython-users-bounces+m.schaber= >>>> codesys....@python.org] *On Behalf Of *Haymo Kutschbach >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:39 PM >>>> *To:* Tim Orling; Uncle Meat >>>> *Cc:* ironpython-users@python.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ironpython-users] Community Meeting >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Tim, >>>> >>>> Ironclad looks interesting. Will investigate it. Thanks for the >>>> reference! >>>> >>>> The promising thing regarding efforts: most, if not all of it has been >>>> done already in our Computing Engine. In fact people maintain wrappers >>>> around the (Matlab'isch) ILNumerics which mimic the numpy API and tend to >>>> be rather thin. The effort therefore would establish in getting rid of such >>>> wrappers and to handle the internal storage differences directly in >>>> ILNumerics. But of course, this needs to be done also... >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Haymo >>>> >>>> On July 11, 2016 10:23:28 PM Tim Orling <ticot...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Uncle Meat <3000....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Haymo, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am very interested in having IPy support Numpy. I would be willing to >>>> support the effort if you need some help. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Numpy is a problem because of the amount of C extensions. The best >>>> hope, IMHO, is ironclad which marshalls objects around. Pawel and I spent a >>>> bit of time getting a clean build of ironclad, but whether it was actually >>>> functional or not remains to be seen. We were going for clean builds as a >>>> first step. Actually getting Numpy to be .NET native is going to be a LOT >>>> of work. >>>> >>>> https://github.com/IronLanguages/ironclad >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, I have changed employers and am not that focused on .NET >>>> any more. My main interest these days would be to see IronPython3 moving >>>> forward (out of fondness for the platform). >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> --Tim (Intel Open Source Technology Center) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Haymo Kutschbach < >>>> h.kutschb...@ilnumerics.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Alex and all! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for the interesting news and for all the work done so far! There >>>> are considerations at ILNumerics to add numpy support to IronPython. So I >>>> would like to closely follow plans and progress of the main project. If >>>> there is a chance to attend the upcoming meeting I would like to >>>> participate as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My timezone is CEST / Berlin. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Haymo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ------------------------- >>>> >>>> Haymo Kutschbach >>>> >>>> ILNumerics GmbH >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> h.kutschb...@ilnumerics.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ILNumerics GmbH >>>> >>>> Danziger Str. 219 >>>> >>>> 10407 Berlin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tel: +49 30 4208 7799 >>>> >>>> Fax: +49 30 4208 7775 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.ilnumerics.net >>>> >>>> http://twitter.com/ilnumerics >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Potsdam >>>> >>>> Registernummer: HRB 26715 P >>>> >>>> Geschäftsführung: Haymo Kutschbach >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Ironpython-users [mailto:ironpython-users-bounces+h.kutschbach= >>>> ilnumerics....@python.org] *On Behalf Of *Slide >>>> *Sent:* Montag, 11. Juli 2016 07:02 >>>> *To:* ironpython-users@python.org >>>> *Subject:* [Ironpython-users] Community Meeting >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello IronPythonistas! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeff Hardy has handed over the mangement of IronPython to myself and >>>> Benedikt Eggers. We are hoping to recruit some new people to contribute to >>>> IronPython and get some releases out. We would like to have a community >>>> meeting to discuss future direction for IronPython. We're planning on >>>> holding the meeting on Gitter, you can find the room here: >>>> https://gitter.im/IronLanguages/main. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I would like to cover the following agenda topics, but would definitely >>>> like to hear from community members what they would like to discuss as >>>> well. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - IronRuby - What do we want to do here? >>>> >>>> - Issue disposition - there are currently about 961 issues, with most >>>> having been ported from CodePlex. >>>> >>>> - Release schedule - I would like to do more rolling releases, getting >>>> features and fixes out faster, but still maintaining stability >>>> >>>> - Continuous Integration - I was, for some time a contributor on the >>>> Jenkins project, I am approaching CloudBees to see what might be available >>>> for open source projects >>>> >>>> - IronPython 3 - Roadmap to IronPython 3, which would be Python 3 >>>> compatible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please reply back if you are interested in attending the meeting and >>>> specify your timezone. I'd like to make the meeting as easy to attend as >>>> possible for the most amount of people. We won't be able to get everyone, >>>> but I would like to get as many as possible. I would like to hold the >>>> meeting this Thursday. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Alex Earl >>>> >>>> (slide) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ironpython-users mailing list >>>> Ironpython-users@python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ironpython-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ironpython-users mailing list >>>> Ironpython-users@python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ironpython-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ironpython-users mailing list >> Ironpython-users@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ironpython-users >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ironpython-users mailing list > Ironpython-users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ironpython-users > >
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