This doesn't solve the problem in any way, but Console2 (on SourceForge gives you tabs and proper(-ish) cut and paste. I, too, long for the day when conhost.exe is a real console. If I ever get asked, I will pass this request on ;)
JD -----Original Message----- From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Meinrad Recheis Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:17 PM To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] Feedback On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Orion Edwards<orion.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've previously (with IronRuby versions 0.5,0.6 and earlier nightlies) > tried to do various tasks using IronRuby, for 3 reasons: > 1. Because ruby is a great language and I want to use it. > 2. I believe IronRuby is especially valuable for fitting in with all > the .NET 'business code' around, and I hope any feedback I can provide > might be useful to you? > 3. To promote IronRuby amongst my company and local community However, > I'd always come up against unfixable blockers, and had to abandon the > effort. > With 0.9 however, I've actually succeeded, and have built an > automated-integration-testing setup (testing production code on > dedicated > machines) using IronRuby. > I'd like to offer some feedback based on this: > * First of all, congratulations on all the progress! Being able to > actually use IronRuby on a real project has been really satisfying. > You guys are awesome! > * The main issue I now have with IronRuby at the moment is startup time. > It takes around 4 seconds warm-starting iirb on my core2quad with 4 > gigs of RAM, and far far longer (some 30-odd seconds) cold starting on > a lesser machine. I've ngen'ed all the IronRuby dll's on both machines. > Anything you could do to reduce this time would make a huge impact > (really, I'd be over the moon), and I'd gladly trade off a bit of > runtime speed if it was needed. > * It also feels like parsing files (require 'blah.rb', or requiring > lots of > files) is a slow operation. I don't have any objective data to back > this up, but it seems to fit, given that warm-starting just ir.exe > takes approx 0.5 seconds instead of 4 > * On the plus side, being able to just distribute the 5 core dll's > and omit the ruby standard library if needed is really great. One of > the best things about IronRuby thus far has been that all I need to do > to deploy it is copy a few files and presto. > * I'm primarily using it for scripting rather than any actual > computation so I'm not compute-bound, but my impression has been that > the current runtime-performance of IronRuby is great (the problem is > "solved" as far as I'm concerned) As an aside: the win32 console is > atrocious (which negatively impacts irb greatly). Please could someone > at microsoft take a mac, run terminal.app, and go and beat the windows > team over the head with it. You could substitute any linux distro for > the mac if you don't have one. To be clear, I don't mean powershell vs > cmd.exe, I mean the actual display/renderer, which looks like it > hasn't changed since windows 3.1, and can't even copy/paste a > multi-line block of text properly! rofl. I think the windows team surely would have liked to make it better but I am sure they weren't given the time. someone should beat the responsible manager over the head with it ;) > Thanks for all the hard work, keep it up! > Orion > > > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core
