For dealing with Clr-backed objects such as Exception should we just 
create special cases in the Marshal to dump and load them? Is there any 
way I can find out what other ruby objects are actually CLR objects other 
than Exception types and the basic int, double, float types?

My experiments with extending the marshal to dump CLR types were 
interesting.
I can dump and load pure CLR types such as System::DateTime, and in theory 
it should also work seamlessly for CLR classes that have been "extended" 
by ruby.
The code is quite simple, it just extends the marshaller and add a few 
extra nonstandard type codes for CLR primitive types such as System::Int64 
that can't be dealt with by the ruby marshaller.

You wouldn't be able to unmarshal a Pure or extended CLR object from CRuby 
as it wouldn't understand these extra type codes but that doesn't make any 
sense anyway.

Because the marshal extensions preserve all the CLR information for 
exceptions, an IronRuby Exception won't be able to be loaded by CRuby, so 
to keep compatibility there would have to be special cases for Exceptions 
(and any other builtin CLR objects that masquerade as ruby objects) 
whether the ISerializable code stays or goes.

Are there any unit tests or specs for the marshalling? There doesn't seem 
to be any mention of it in IronRuby.Tests.csproj, but I haven't looked 
through all the rubyspec stuff yet.




From:   Tomas Matousek <tomas.matou...@microsoft.com>
To:     "ironruby-core@rubyforge.org" <ironruby-core@rubyforge.org>
Date:   26/10/2011 03:42 p.m.
Subject:        Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby's Marshal.dump doesn't work 
with CLR types, or ruby types backed by a CLR type
Sent by:        ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org



I think we should NOT serialize non-Ruby types for now. The implementation 
isn?t quite working so I?d prefer we delete all code that deals with 
ISerializable, clean up the marshaller and if .NET serialization is needed 
in future implement it fully and correctly.
 
Marshal.dump has to output exactly the same data as CRuby implementation 
(for Ruby objects). Otherwise you won?t be able to read data serialized by 
CRuby in IronRuby and vice versa.
 
Tomas
 
From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org [
mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Orion Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:22 PM
To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org
Subject: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby's Marshal.dump doesn't work with CLR 
types, or ruby types backed by a CLR type
 
Backstory: I'm trying to use DRb for some in-house utility code. DRb 
itself seems to work fine, but I found that when I misspelled a method 
name, instead of reporting back a NoMethodError, the IronRuby process 
crashed immediately to the console. 

This is using a relatively recent build of IronRuby from Github 

Steps to repro: 

e = RuntimeError.new 'xyz' 
dumped = Marshal.dump e 
e2 = Marshal.load dumped 

I would expect e2 to be equivalent to e, but instead the process crashes 
with this exception 

mscorlib:0:in `_InvokeConstructor': Exception has been thrown by the 
target of an invocation. (System::Reflection::TargetInvocationException) 
        from mscorlib:0:in `InvokeConstructor' 
        from mscorlib:0:in `Invoke' 
        from (ir):1:in `load' 
        from (ir):1 


Note: This also happens with any CLR type eg System::DateTime. 

I looked through IronRuby's marshalling code, and it appears that the 
behaviour of Marshal.dump and Marshal.load don't align properly. 

Marshal.dump is it's own self-contained set of code which essentially 
writes data to a BinaryStream. 
For ruby types, it ends up writing a series of values in a format that 
looks a lot like what I remember CRuby's marshal writing. 
For CLR types, this just writes the Type name and no instance data (clr 
objects don't have ruby instance variables after all) 

Marshal.load does 2 things: 
1. Reads any ruby instance variables out into an Attributes dictionary 
2. Uses reflection to find any non-public Constructor(SerializationInfo, 
StreamingContext) and invoke it. 


For ruby types, this finds the protected RubyClass(SerializationInfo, 
StreamingContext) ctor, which calls RubyOps.DeserializeObject, which in 
turn reads the attributes dictionary and it's all fine. 
For CLR types, this finds whatever constructor might exist for the CLR 
object, which does whatever it does for that type. 

Unfortunately because the data that is getting passed into the CLR 
deserialization constructor came from Marshal.dump which has no knowledge 
whatsoever of CLR serialization, the whole thing crashes. 

I'm no expert on CLR serialization, so I'd really appreciate some comments 
on this, as I'm not sure what to do here. 

As far as I can guess however, I can see two solutions: 

1. Implement Marshal.dump on top of the CLR serialization code so it 
matches Marshal.load and should therefore be able to handle CLR types too. 


2. Don't allow marshalling of CLR types, and put some special-case code 
into any Ruby types that are backed by CLR types (such as Exception) so 
these at least can be serialized? 

I'm going to have a crack at #1, but I'm not sure how successful this is. 

Again, any feedback would be greatly appreciated. 

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