Re: [IslamCity] Re: Do bsome thing about this FITNA ,woman friendly mosque, it is liber

Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:28:39 -0800

Assalam alaikum,
 
I fully acknowledge and encourage involvement of Muslim sisters in improving the future of Islam. What I take strong objection to is liberties taken in defining "full integration of Muslim women in the mosque".
 
Peace
F Sabil

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Assalam alaikum brother,
 
Alhamdulillaah I am aware of the fact that Muslim women are permitted to go to the mosque. Brother Farrukh had stated "there was never a division between men and women in the mosques". This is fallacious. The women were separated from men in the mosque too (as one brother mentioned in this thread). Hope all that is clear now.
 
Jazaak Allahu Khair
F Sabil

"G.Waleed Kavalec"@yahoo.com wrote:
Walaikum asalaam

Ibn Umar narrated: The Messenger of Allah, peace be with him, said: Do not deprive women of their share of the Masjids, when they seek permission from you. Bilal said: By Allah, we would certainly prevent them. 'Abdullah said: I say that the Messenger of Allah, peace be with him, said it and you say: We would certainly prevent them! (Sahih Muslim Book 4, Number 891).
Narrated Ibn Umar: The Prophet, peace be with him, said, "Allow women to go to the Mosques at night." (Bukhari Volume 2, Book 13, Number 22).


On 12/6/05, FSabil <FSabil> wrote:
Assalam alaikum,
 
Could you provide me with references for the statement that women mixed [your mail suggests that] with men in the past? It is very likely that we could be the ignorant ones.
 
And brother, when you pray for protection from ignorance, why dont you include our other brothers in those prayers, instead of lampooning them with 'shame, shame'?
 
Jazaak Allahu Khair
F Sabil

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Prophet Muhammad must have been a liberal as he prohibited men from
denying their wives the right to attend the mosque.

And every mosque which seperates men from women must also be the cause
of fitnah, as there was never a divisionbetween men and women in the
mosques at the time of Prophet Muhammad.

Shame on the misguided, ignorant Muslims who do not even kow the
history of Islam, yet corrupt something as simple as allowing and
supporting women attending the mosques - a practice of all of the
wives of the Prophet and many of the female companions.

Shame indeed, and may Allah protect us all from such filthy ignorance,
ameen.


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The prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: "By Allah, if Allah guides one person by you, it is better for you than the best types of camels." [al-Bukhaaree, Muslim]

The prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)  also said, "Whoever calls to guidance will have a reward similar to the reward of the one who follows him, without the reward of either of them being lessened at all."
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Dear Brothers & Sisters:

I found the whole argument as to whether or not women should be segregated from men in the mosque, to be counterproductive and downright silly. If Islam is the religion of Unity (TAWHEED) and Justice (IDL), then the whole argument about "permissibility" is totally irrelevant. One should not waste one's time and using some questionable AHADEETH to prove the validity (or lack of) of such an obviously repugnant and demeaning practice. Muslim women should have the right to claim their rightful place in the most important institution in the life of the Muslim community, namely the mosque. So please stop using these totally irrelevant AHADEETH which are insulting to the nobility and sanctity of the Holy Qur'an and the Prophet.

In this respect, I strongly recommend Jeffrey Lang's splendid book EVEN ANGELS ASK: A Journey to Islam in America (amana publications, 1998. ISBN # 0-915957-1).  In it professor Lang of Kansas University (he is a professor of mathematics there) points out that: "In the past fourteen years, I have witnessed many persons who were genuinely interested in Islam and in search of faith turn away from this religion because of disillusionment over Muslim attitudes about women. I have observed this so often that I am inclined to say that this may indeed be the biggest barrier to the spread of Islam in the West (emphasis added)." You may also wish to read professor Lang's latest book entitled LOSING MY RELIGION: A CALL FOR HELP. Most of this book is focused on the disenchantment of Muslim youth in North America with Islam, the most important reason of which is the rigid and archaic interpretation of the sublime Qur'an and the traditions of the Prophet.

So please brothers and sisters, give yourselves the chance to "smell the roses," and stop arguing about this nonsensical and racist issue of "women segregation" in the mosque; there are far more important issues that require the collective work of all Muslims, be they men or women. The future of Islam in Canada and the United States (and for that matter, in the world at large and especially in the Muslim world) will depend to a large extent on the active participation of Muslim women in the collective life of the Muslim communities. An essential requirement of this active participation is the full integration of Muslim women in the mosque.

SALAM

Ibrahim Hayani


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(Holy Quran-16:125)

{And who is better in speech than he who [says: "My Lord is Allah (believes in His Oneness)," and then stands straight (acts upon His Order), and] invites (men) to Allah's (Islamic Monotheism), and does righteous deeds, and says: "I am one of the Muslims."} (Holy Quran-41:33)

The prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: "By Allah, if Allah guides one person by you, it is better for you than the best types of camels." [al-Bukhaaree, Muslim]

The prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)  also said, "Whoever calls to guidance will have a reward similar to the reward of the one who follows him, without the reward of either of them being lessened at all."
[Muslim, Ahmad, Aboo Daawood, an-Nasaa'ee, at-Tirmidhee, Ibn Maajah]
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