But there are retail ISP's who sell to individual users, and there are
wholesale ISP's who sell to Corporate customers. They both might be of the
same size, and have the same revenue, but different number of ports.

Regards,

Nasir.


On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Azfar Manzoor wrote:

> I think both Nasir and Naeem have valid points and I would suggest using something 
>like number of operational ports as a variable as that will take care of concerns 
>raised by both of you.
> 
> Azfar
> WOL
> 
> At 01:51 AM7/26/01+0500, Naeem Haq wrote:
> >Nasir ,
> >
> >In a perfect world I would agree with you , but in Pakistan where revenues
> >are falsified by some and thus this may not be a good measure as those who
> >steal will benefit even further . Please also note that fees of this nature
> >should not be linked with the revenue as the cost of regulation is not
> >propostional to the revenue . Lets look for better variables .
> >
> >Naeem Haq
> >NEXLINX
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: A.R. Nasir Qureshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:14 PM
> >To: nadeem
> >Cc: ansar; Saad Saleem; Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah; POL Asif Luqman POL;
> >Naeem Haq (Nexlinx); WOL Azfar Manzoor; S M Shafi; ispak mailing list
> >Subject: Re: ISPAK: GOOD NEWS (Allah Akbar)
> >
> >
> >
> >Every thing is ok, but for point no. three. Small businesses and Big
> >businesses should be charged differently. Big businesses already get a lot
> >of benefits because of economies of scale.
> >
> >What ever the ratio, be it 1 % or .1 percent, but it should be based on
> >the size of the business, and revenue is a good measurement.
> >
> >And this should be the only charge ISP's have to PTA.
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Nasir.
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, nadeem wrote:
> >
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> In my opinion the basis of talks with PTA should be:
> >>
> >> 1. There will be only one charge i.e, regulatory fee (Formula needs
> >discussion among ISPs)
> >> 2. This fee will include all charges including renewal fee
> >> 3. The fee must not be linked to revenue.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>   From: ansar
> >>   To: Saad Saleem ; Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah ; POL Asif Luqman POL ; Naeem
> >Haq (Nexlinx) ; WOL Azfar Manzoor ; S M Shafi ; ispak mailing list
> >>   Cc: ispak mailing list
> >>   Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:59 AM
> >>   Subject: RE: ISPAK: GOOD NEWS (Allah Akbar)
> >>
> >>
> >>   Dear Saad,
> >>
> >>   Congratulations!!!!
> >>
> >>   I understand that the team is already there who signed the petition. If
> >the Royalty is illegal, what negotiations with PTA you are talking about???
> >>
> >>   Best Regards
> >>   Ansar
> >>     -----Original Message-----
> >>     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Saad Saleem
> >>     Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:49
> >>     To: Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah; POL Asif Luqman POL; Naeem Haq (Nexlinx);
> >WOL Azfar Manzoor; S M Shafi; ispak mailing list
> >>     Cc: ispak mailing list
> >>     Subject: ISPAK: GOOD NEWS (Allah Akbar)
> >>
> >>
> >>     Dear All,
> >>
> >>
> >>     Good News , (Allah Akbar )
> >>
> >>
> >>     High Court has given decision  on our Writ Petition  granting stay
> >order  and directed PTA to decide the submitted  reference within 30 days .
> >The stance of  PTA in the court was very positive and they have shown their
> >willingness to work with us in order to resolve the issue with mutual
> >consent of ISP'S .
> >>
> >>     Soon we are going to host a meeting in Islamabad and I would like that
> >we should form a team which will negotiate with PTA .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Best Regards
> >>
> >>     Saad Saleem
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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