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ASF GitHub Bot logged work on ARTEMIS-4582:
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                Author: ASF GitHub Bot
            Created on: 19/Feb/24 22:25
            Start Date: 19/Feb/24 22:25
    Worklog Time Spent: 10m 
      Work Description: jbertram commented on PR #4820:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/4820#issuecomment-1953228386

   Couple of question...
   
   1. One of the things that `management.xml` let you do was configure remote 
JMX connectivity. How do I do that with this?
   2. One nice thing about `management.xml` is that you didn't have to muck 
around with system properties. Any chance this could be configured via 
`broker.xml` instead of `javax.management.builder.initial`? Perhaps a new 
`<management>` block would be useful here.
   3. There is a fair bit of documentation about `management.xml` in 
`management.adoc`. Could you provide something analogous (or even more 
comprehensive) for this? A few simple use-cases with corresponding 
configuration would go a long way in helping users & developers understand how 
it works.
   4. The existing default `management.xml` has recommended settings (e.g. 
read-only access to non-Artemis MBeans). I think we should have something 
similar for this as well. Is that possible?




Issue Time Tracking
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    Worklog Id:     (was: 905774)
    Time Spent: 20m  (was: 10m)

> add view and update permissions to augment the manage rbac for control 
> resources
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>
>                 Key: ARTEMIS-4582
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-4582
>             Project: ActiveMQ Artemis
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Broker, Configuration, JMX, Web Console
>    Affects Versions: 2.31.0
>            Reporter: Gary Tully
>            Assignee: Gary Tully
>            Priority: Major
>          Time Spent: 20m
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
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> we have the manage permission that allows sending to the management address, 
> to access any control resource. We don't however distinguish what a user can 
> do.
> We should segment control operations into categories: CRUD provides a basis
> view for get/is (Read)
> update for set or operations that mutate or modify.
> We allow this sort of configuration via management.xml for jmx mbean access 
> but using a different model based on object name.
> All of the mbeans delegate to the control resources.
> If we add these two additional permissions then we can have a single rbac 
> model (that supports config reload) and more granularity on control resource 
> access from the management address.



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