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Roman Kondakov commented on CALCITE-3972:
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I agree with [~hyuan]. I also think we should not register logical converters 
(LogicalSort or LogicalExchange) in the planner's MEMO at all. As it 
implemented in my pet cascades-style optimizer. It helps to avoid not-needed 
multiple RelSets merging and rules firing. All physical properties should be 
enforced by physical converters only at the final step of Group (RelSet) 
optimization.

> Allow RelBuilder to create RelNode with convention and use it for trait 
> convert
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>
>                 Key: CALCITE-3972
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3972
>             Project: Calcite
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Xiening Dai
>            Assignee: Xiening Dai
>            Priority: Major
>          Time Spent: 2h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> 1. Provide Convention.transformRelBuilder() to transform an existing 
> RelBuilder into one with specific convention.
> 2. RelBuilder provides withRelFactories() method to allow caller swap the 
> underlying RelFactories and create a new builder. 
> 3. Use the new interface in RelCollationTraitDef for converting into 
> RelCollation traits
> We can avoid ~1/3 of total rule firings in a N way join case with this change.



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