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Will Stevens commented on CLOUDSTACK-5278:
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1. Great, I think that is a good solution.  I have developed a work around for 
this for my plugin and I will be submitting it probably tomorrow, but I think 
this solution is the best way to handle this.

2. Since the rule is not in the DB, I took the approach of just removing it 
from the firewall on deletion because I am not sure that is persists in CS once 
the network is deleted.  If it does, I am not cleaning up that orphaned rule in 
CS, only on my appliance right now.  Not sure if this is a valid solution, but 
it appears to work.

On other thing that I have noticed which is not a bug, but is something to 
consider.  The user has no way to know if they are creating 'allow' or 'deny' 
rules when they create egress rules because there is no way for the user to 
know what the default rule is.  Ideally the default rule would be in the 
database and would show in the UI, but be grayed out and not editable by the 
user.  This way the user would have a mechanism to know if the rules they add 
are allow or deny rules...

> Egress Firewall rules clarifications
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CLOUDSTACK-5278
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-5278
>             Project: CloudStack
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: Public(Anyone can view this level - this is the 
> default.) 
>    Affects Versions: 4.3.0
>            Reporter: Will Stevens
>            Assignee: Jayapal Reddy
>            Priority: Critical
>             Fix For: 4.3.0
>
>
> These issues may also exist in the 4.2 branch, but I am currently 
> testing/working on the 4.3 branch.
> I believe these bugs were introduced with the change to the Network Service 
> Offering to add the 'Default egress policy' dropdown.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1578
> I am trying to resolve the bugs this change introduced in the Palo Alto 
> plugin.
> There are two types of Egress rules (from what I can tell).
> - FirewallRule.FirewallRuleType.System : this appears to be set up by the 
> system on network creation to correspond to the global network default 
> allow/deny egress rule.
> - FirewallRule.FirewallRuleType.User : any rule that a user creates through 
> the UI will get this type.
> There are bugs associated with both of the options in the dropdown (allow and 
> deny).
> Case: 'deny'
> - When the network is setup, it does not try to create the global deny rule 
> for the network, but it appears to register that it exists.  Instead, when 
> the first egress rule is created by a user, the system sees both the 'system' 
> and 'user' rules, so it will create both rules then.
> Case: both 'allow' and 'deny'
> - The clean up of the network global 'system' egress rules are never done.  
> So when a network is deleted, it will leave an orphaned egress rule 
> associated with the previous network's cidr.  This is bound to cause many 
> issues.
> - Even worse, it appears that the ID for the network global 'system' egress 
> rule is hardcoded to '0'.  Every time I try to spin up a new network it will 
> attempt to create a rule with a '0' ID, but since one already exists with 
> that ID, there is a config collision.  In my case (Palo Alto), the second 
> rule with the same ID gets ignored because it checks to see if the rule 
> exists and it gets a 'yes' back because the previous network has an egress 
> rule with that ID already.
> Let me know if you have additional questions...



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