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ASF GitHub Bot commented on FLINK-8558:
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Github user pnowojski commented on a diff in the pull request:

    https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/6264#discussion_r200987026
  
    --- Diff: 
flink-connectors/flink-connector-kafka-0.10/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/connectors/kafka/Kafka010TableSource.java
 ---
    @@ -18,48 +18,99 @@
     
     package org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka;
     
    -import org.apache.flink.annotation.PublicEvolving;
    +import org.apache.flink.annotation.Internal;
     import org.apache.flink.api.common.serialization.DeserializationSchema;
     import org.apache.flink.api.common.typeinfo.TypeInformation;
    +import org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.config.StartupMode;
    +import 
org.apache.flink.streaming.connectors.kafka.internals.KafkaTopicPartition;
     import org.apache.flink.table.api.TableSchema;
    +import org.apache.flink.table.sources.RowtimeAttributeDescriptor;
     import org.apache.flink.table.sources.StreamTableSource;
     import org.apache.flink.types.Row;
     
    +import java.util.List;
    +import java.util.Map;
     import java.util.Properties;
     
     /**
      * Kafka {@link StreamTableSource} for Kafka 0.10.
      */
    -@PublicEvolving
    -public abstract class Kafka010TableSource extends KafkaTableSource {
    +@Internal
    +public class Kafka010TableSource extends KafkaTableSource {
     
    -   // The deserialization schema for the Kafka records
    -   private final DeserializationSchema<Row> deserializationSchema;
    +   /**
    +    * Creates a Kafka 0.10 {@link StreamTableSource}.
    +    *
    +    * @param schema                      Schema of the produced table.
    +    * @param proctimeAttribute           Field name of the processing time 
attribute, null if no
    --- End diff --
    
    This is kind of controversial topic. Generally speaking I suspect that Java 
discourage to use `Optional` beside return values because we should use 
`@Nullable` or not use any of them. However in projects that ignored 
`@Nullable` annotation (such as Flink), it's virtually impossible to start 
using them and thus using `Optional` is the only way to have a compiler control 
over optional/nullable fields.
    
    In this particular use case of "optional" arguments my preference hierarchy 
is:
    1. provide a builder for this class 
    2. provide alternative constructor without this argument
    3. use `@Nullable` with enabled compile errors on incorrectly handled 
`@Nullable` annotations
    4. use `Optional`
    ...
    1336. use `@Nullable` WITHOUT compile errors on incorrectly handled 
`@Nullable` annotations
    1337. use nullable argument without `@Nullable` annotation
    
    two last options are for me out of the question, since `1337` is evil and 
`1336` doesn't improve situation. Option `3` is sadly impossible for Flink.
    
    The same logic applies for me to other use cases (like fields, return 
values etc):
    1. avoid nulls/optionals (for example via builders or named parameters with 
default values)
    2. use `@Nullable` with compiler errors
    3. use `Optional`



> Add unified format interfaces and format discovery
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: FLINK-8558
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-8558
>             Project: Flink
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Streaming Connectors
>            Reporter: Timo Walther
>            Assignee: Timo Walther
>            Priority: Major
>              Labels: pull-request-available
>
> In the last release, we introduced a new module {{flink-formats}}. Currently 
> only {{flink-avro}} is located there but we will add more formats such as 
> {{flink-json}}, {{flink-protobuf}}, and so on. For better separation of 
> concerns we want decouple connectors from formats: e.g., remove 
> {{KafkaAvroTableSource}} and {{KafkaJsonTableSource}}.
> A newly introduced {{FormatFactory}} will use Java service loaders to 
> discovery available formats in the classpath (similar to how file systems are 
> discovered now). A {{Format}} will provide a method for converting {{byte[]}} 
> to target record type.



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