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ASF GitHub Bot commented on FLINK-9808:
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StefanRRichter commented on a change in pull request #6875: [FLINK-9808] [state 
backends] Migrate state when necessary in state backends
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/6875#discussion_r227761120
 
 

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flink-runtime/src/test/java/org/apache/flink/runtime/state/StateBackendMigrationTestBase.java
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+package org.apache.flink.runtime.state;
+
+import org.apache.flink.api.common.JobID;
+import org.apache.flink.api.common.state.ValueState;
+import org.apache.flink.api.common.state.ValueStateDescriptor;
+import org.apache.flink.api.common.typeutils.TypeSerializer;
+import org.apache.flink.api.common.typeutils.TypeSerializerSchemaCompatibility;
+import org.apache.flink.api.common.typeutils.TypeSerializerSnapshot;
+import org.apache.flink.api.common.typeutils.base.IntSerializer;
+import org.apache.flink.core.memory.DataInputView;
+import org.apache.flink.core.memory.DataOutputView;
+import org.apache.flink.runtime.checkpoint.CheckpointOptions;
+import org.apache.flink.runtime.checkpoint.StateObjectCollection;
+import org.apache.flink.runtime.execution.Environment;
+import org.apache.flink.runtime.operators.testutils.DummyEnvironment;
+import org.apache.flink.types.StringValue;
+import org.apache.flink.util.TestLogger;
+import org.junit.Rule;
+import org.junit.Test;
+import org.junit.rules.ExpectedException;
+
+import java.io.IOException;
+import java.util.Collections;
+import java.util.HashMap;
+import java.util.List;
+import java.util.Map;
+import java.util.concurrent.RunnableFuture;
+
+import static org.junit.Assert.assertEquals;
+
+/**
+ * Tests for the {@link KeyedStateBackend} and {@link OperatorStateBackend} as 
produced
+ * by various {@link StateBackend}s.
+ */
+@SuppressWarnings("serial")
+public abstract class StateBackendMigrationTestBase<B extends 
AbstractStateBackend> extends TestLogger {
 
 Review comment:
   Overall, I find that this test tailored too much towards specific 
implementation details, like how many times a certain serializer is called and 
when. Learning from past mistakes, I found that such tests have a tendency to 
break fast under future changes and wrongly produce test failures in the 
absence of real bugs.
   
   I would prefer if we could take a more "black box", for example maybe taking 
one more checkpoint/restore cycle and providing a clearly incompatibel 
serializer to see if the state was migrated for the checkpoint. This is more 
stable against changes and tests what we actually want to make sure.

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> Implement state conversion procedure in state backends
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: FLINK-9808
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-9808
>             Project: Flink
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: State Backends, Checkpointing
>            Reporter: Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai
>            Assignee: Aljoscha Krettek
>            Priority: Critical
>              Labels: pull-request-available
>             Fix For: 1.7.0
>
>
> With FLINK-9377 in place and that config snapshots serve as the single source 
> of truth for recreating restore serializers, the next step would be to 
> utilize this when performing a full-pass state conversion (i.e., read with 
> old / restore serializer, write with new serializer).
> For Flink's heap-based backends, it can be seen that state conversion 
> inherently happens, since all state is always deserialized after restore with 
> the restore serializer, and written with the new serializer on snapshots.
> For the RocksDB state backend, since state is lazily deserialized, state 
> conversion needs to happen for per-registered state on their first access if 
> the registered new serializer has a different serialization schema than the 
> previous serializer.
> This task should consist of three parts:
> 1. Allow {{CompatibilityResult}} to correctly distinguish between whether the 
> new serializer's schema is a) compatible with the serializer as it is, b) 
> compatible after the serializer has been reconfigured, or c) incompatible.
> 2. Introduce state conversion procedures in the RocksDB state backend. This 
> should occur on the first state access.
> 3. Make sure that all other backends no longer do redundant serializer 
> compatibility checks. That is not required because those backends always 
> perform full-pass state conversions.



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