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ASF GitHub Bot commented on FLINK-3435:
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Github user aljoscha commented on a diff in the pull request:

    https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/1699#discussion_r53984915
  
    --- Diff: 
flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/functions/IngestionTimeExtractor.java
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    +package org.apache.flink.streaming.api.functions;
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    +import org.apache.flink.streaming.api.watermark.Watermark;
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    +/**
    + * A timestamp assigner that assigns ingestion time timestamps.
    + * 
    + * @param <T> The elements that get timestamps assigned.
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    +public class IngestionTimeExtractor<T> implements 
AssignerWithPeriodicWatermarks<T> {
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    Should it maybe be call "WallClockTimeExtractor" or something similar? 
Since it's not really the ingestion time if timestamp assignment does not 
happen in the sources.


> Change interplay of Ingestion Time and Event Time
> -------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: FLINK-3435
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-3435
>             Project: Flink
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Streaming
>    Affects Versions: 0.10.2
>            Reporter: Stephan Ewen
>            Assignee: Stephan Ewen
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 1.0.0
>
>
> Currently, "EventTime" and "IngestionTime" are completely the same.
> For both happens the following:
>   - Sources generate ingestion time timestamps and watermarks
>   - If a user adds a manual timestamp extractor / watermark generator, then 
> those override the ingestion time timestamps and watermarks
>   - That implies that event time on a certain input falls back to ingestion 
> time, if one forgets (or incorrectly uses) the timestamp extractors
>   - Also, Ingestion Time and Event Time simply mix if some inputs have 
> timestamp assigners, and others have not.
> This behavior is quite tricky to understand. After some discussions with 
> [~aljoscha] and [~rmetzger], we suggest to change it the following way.
>   1. On Ingestion Time, the timestamps and watermarks are generated as they 
> are now.
>   2. On event time, no default timestamps and watermarks are generated. If a 
> user does not implement a timestamp extractor / watermark generator, then the 
> event time operations will fail fast.
>   3. If one wants to use ingestion time on event time settings (mix), one can 
> use an explicit "WallClockTimetampsAndWatermark" generator.
>   4. Later, the "Ingestion Time" settings should automatically disable and 
> user-defined timestamp extractors / assigners.



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