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Vladimir Rodionov edited comment on HBASE-21874 at 2/15/19 6:30 PM: -------------------------------------------------------------------- This patch requires good write up, it is not clear how this thing work, [~ram_krish]. From what I see, you extends FileMmapEngine, which works with persistent cache by mmapping it into RAM, so your new engine does exactly the same thing? As far as I understand, the major selling point of PMEM is providing RAM-like capacity beyond what DRAM can do. So we are supposed to have some relatively small DRAM and large size of NVDIMM installed into a server. This raises the questions: # Where are your going to keep bucket cache? Not in DRAM definitely, hence in NVDIMM (PMEM)? # If you keep data in PMEM and use extended FileMmapIOEngine, where do yo you mmap it into? into DRAM? That is strange # My question, regarding file system required on top PMEM has remained unanswered. What I see in this patch (may be I am wrong) # You rely on file system on top of PMEM # You mmap PMEM resided file into DRAM Am I right? was (Author: vrodionov): This patch requires good write up, it is not clear how this thing work, [~ram_krish]. From what I see, you extends FileMmapEngine, which works with persistent cache by mmapping it into RAM, so your new engine does exactly the same thing? As far as I understand, the major selling point of PMEM is providing RAM-like capacity beyond what DRAM can do. So we are supposed to have some relatively small DRAM and large size of NVDIMM installed into a server. This raises the questions: # Where are your going to keep bucket cache? Not in DRAM definitely, hence in NVDIMM (PMEM)? # If you keep data in PMEM and use extended FileMmapIOEngine, where do yo you mmap it into? into DRAM? That is strange # My question, regarding file system required on top PMEM has remained unanswered. What I see in this patch (may be I am wrong) # You rely on file system on top of PMEM # You mmap PMEM resided file into DRAM This does not look right to me. > Bucket cache on Persistent memory > --------------------------------- > > Key: HBASE-21874 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-21874 > Project: HBase > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: BucketCache > Affects Versions: 3.0.0 > Reporter: ramkrishna.s.vasudevan > Assignee: ramkrishna.s.vasudevan > Priority: Major > Fix For: 3.0.0 > > Attachments: HBASE-21874.patch, HBASE-21874.patch, > HBASE-21874_V2.patch, Pmem_BC.png > > > Non volatile persistent memory devices are byte addressable like DRAM (for > eg. Intel DCPMM). Bucket cache implementation can take advantage of this new > memory type and can make use of the existing offheap data structures to serve > data directly from this memory area without having to bring the data to > onheap. > The patch is a new IOEngine implementation that works with the persistent > memory. > Note : Here we don't make use of the persistence nature of the device and > just make use of the big memory it provides. > Performance numbers to follow. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005)