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Sean Busbey commented on HBASE-22149:
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Given the combination of this a) needing hadoop 3 only and b) being an 
experimental approach that we're not sure on sustainability in production I'd 
much prefer a different repository.

 

Is anyone opposed to landing this in a new repository, i.e. `hbase-filesystem`? 
Provided it includes instructions for installation / set up we wouldn't even 
need to add the artifacts from that repository as a dependency for the main 
repo's binary artifacts.

> HBOSS: A FileSystem implementation to provide HBase's required semantics
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HBASE-22149
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-22149
>             Project: HBase
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Filesystem Integration
>            Reporter: Sean Mackrory
>            Assignee: Sean Mackrory
>            Priority: Critical
>         Attachments: HBASE-22149-hadoop.patch, HBASE-22149-hbase-2.patch, 
> HBASE-22149-hbase-3.patch, HBASE-22149-hbase-4.patch, 
> HBASE-22149-hbase-5.patch, HBASE-22149-hbase.patch
>
>
> (Have been using the name HBOSS for HBase / Object Store Semantics)
> I've had some thoughts about how to solve the problem of running HBase on 
> object stores. There has been some thought in the past about adding the 
> required semantics to S3Guard, but I have some concerns about that. First, 
> it's mixing complicated solutions to different problems (bridging the gap 
> between a flat namespace and a hierarchical namespace vs. solving 
> inconsistency). Second, it's S3-specific, whereas other objects stores could 
> use virtually identical solutions. And third, we can't do things like atomic 
> renames in a true sense. There would have to be some trade-offs specific to 
> HBase's needs and it's better if we can solve that in an HBase-specific 
> module without mixing all that logic in with the rest of S3A.
> Ideas to solve this above the FileSystem layer have been proposed and 
> considered (HBASE-20431, for one), and maybe that's the right way forward 
> long-term, but it certainly seems to be a hard problem and hasn't been done 
> yet. But I don't know enough of all the internal considerations to make much 
> of a judgment on that myself.
> I propose a FileSystem implementation that wraps another FileSystem instance 
> and provides locking of FileSystem operations to ensure correct semantics. 
> Locking could quite possibly be done on the same ZooKeeper ensemble as an 
> HBase cluster already uses (I'm sure there are some performance 
> considerations here that deserve more attention). I've put together a 
> proof-of-concept on which I've tested some aspects of atomic renames and 
> atomic file creates. Both of these tests fail reliably on a naked s3a 
> instance. I've also done a small YCSB run against a small cluster to sanity 
> check other functionality and was successful. I will post the patch, and my 
> laundry list of things that still need work. The WAL is still placed on HDFS, 
> but the HBase root directory is otherwise on S3.
> Note that my prototype is built on Hadoop's source tree right now. That's 
> purely for my convenience in putting it together quickly, as that's where I 
> mostly work. I actually think long-term, if this is accepted as a good 
> solution, it makes sense to live in HBase (or it's own repository). It only 
> depends on stable, public APIs in Hadoop and is targeted entirely at HBase's 
> needs, so it should be able to iterate on the HBase community's terms alone.
> Another idea [~ste...@apache.org] proposed to me is that of an inode-based 
> FileSystem that keeps hierarchical metadata in a more appropriate store that 
> would allow the required transactions (maybe a special table in HBase could 
> provide that store itself for other tables), and stores the underlying files 
> with unique identifiers on S3. This allows renames to actually become fast 
> instead of just large atomic operations. It does however place a strong 
> dependency on the metadata store. I have not explored this idea much. My 
> current proof-of-concept has been pleasantly simple, so I think it's the 
> right solution unless it proves unable to provide the required performance 
> characteristics.



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