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Adrien Grand commented on LUCENE-9038: -------------------------------------- Hi Ben This looks like a good summary of the issues that affect our cache. I'm quite impressed by how thorough this list is! bq. In retrospect, a separate QueryCache should be implemented. LruQueryCache declares in its contract that methods like onHit, onQueryEviction, etc. are executed under the global lock. This means implementations may rely on this exclusive read/write access to data structures, a requirement that cannot be supported efficiently. If we can build a better cache then we will find a way to transition our users to it, I wouldn't worry about the migration path yet. We'll figure something out. bq. Since the developers are experts on search, not caching, it seems justified to evaluate if an off-the-shelf library would be more helpful in terms of developer time, code complexity, and performance. We want lucene-core to be dependency-free, so we couldn't add caffeine as a dependency of lucene-core. However other options include having it as a dependency of a module that would expose a different cache implementation, reuse some of its ideas in the current cache implementation or fork the code that we need. bq. It appears that the cache's overhead can be just as much of a benefit as a liability, causing various workarounds and complexity. FYI when I implemented this cache, I went for simplicity in terms of locking, so there is certainly room for improvement. One thing that is not obvious immediately and makes implementing a query cache for Lucene a bit tricky is that it needs to be able to efficiently evict all cache entries for a given segment. This is the reason why the current implementation uses two levels of maps instead of a single map that would take (Query,CacheHeler.Key) pairs as keys. > Evaluate Caffeine for LruQueryCache > ----------------------------------- > > Key: LUCENE-9038 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-9038 > Project: Lucene - Core > Issue Type: Improvement > Reporter: Ben Manes > Priority: Major > > [LRUQueryCache|https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/blob/master/lucene/core/src/java/org/apache/lucene/search/LRUQueryCache.java] > appears to play a central role in Lucene's performance. There are many > issues discussing its performance, such as LUCENE-7235, LUCENE-7237, > LUCENE-8027, LUCENE-8213, and LUCENE-9002. It appears that the cache's > overhead can be just as much of a benefit as a liability, causing various > workarounds and complexity. > When reviewing the discussions and code, the following issues are concerning: > # The cache is guarded by a single lock for all reads and writes. > # All computations are performed outside of the any locking to avoid > penalizing other callers. This doesn't handle the cache stampedes meaning > that multiple threads may cache miss, compute the value, and try to store it. > That redundant work becomes expensive under load and can be mitigated with ~ > per-key locks. > # The cache queries the entry to see if it's even worth caching. At first > glance one assumes that is so that inexpensive entries don't bang on the lock > or thrash the LRU. However, this is also used to indicate data dependencies > for uncachable items (per JIRA), which perhaps shouldn't be invoking the > cache. > # The cache lookup is skipped if the global lock is held and the value is > computed, but not stored. This means a busy lock reduces performance across > all usages and the cache's effectiveness degrades. This is not counted in the > miss rate, giving a false impression. > # An attempt was made to perform computations asynchronously, due to their > heavy cost on tail latencies. That work was reverted due to test failures and > is being worked on. > # An [in-progress change|https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/pull/940] > tries to avoid LRU thrashing due to large, infrequently used items being > cached. > # The cache is tightly intertwined with business logic, making it hard to > tease apart core algorithms and data structures from the usage scenarios. > It seems that more and more items skip being cached because of concurrency > and hit rate performance, causing special case fixes based on knowledge of > the external code flows. Since the developers are experts on search, not > caching, it seems justified to evaluate if an off-the-shelf library would be > more helpful in terms of developer time, code complexity, and performance. > Solr has already introduced [Caffeine|https://github.com/ben-manes/caffeine] > in SOLR-8241 and SOLR-13817. > The proposal is to replace the internals {{LruQueryCache}} so that external > usages are not affected in terms of the API. However, like in {{SolrCache}}, > a difference is that Caffeine only bounds by either the number of entries or > an accumulated size (e.g. bytes), but not both constraints. This likely is an > acceptable divergence in how the configuration is honored. > cc [~ab], [~dsmiley] -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lucene.apache.org