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Qian Zhang commented on MESOS-4392: ----------------------------------- {quote} Note that if it does not set a quota limit, it can still use resources beyond its guarantee and those resources we now want to be revocable by default. {quote} I think even it sets a quota limit, it can also use resources beyond its guarantee but up to its quota limit, right? And I'd like to know why we want the resources beyond its guarantee to be revocable by default? What if those are just some shared resources (i.e., not revocable resources reported by resource estimator and not the idle resources lent from other quota'ed role's guarantee)? Such resources should still be offered to it as non-revocable resources, right? > Balance quota frameworks with non-quota, greedy frameworks. > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: MESOS-4392 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-4392 > Project: Mesos > Issue Type: Epic > Components: allocation, master > Reporter: Bernd Mathiske > Assignee: Alexander Rukletsov > Labels: mesosphere > > Maximize resource utilization and minimize starvation risk for both quota > frameworks and non-quota, greedy frameworks when competing with each other. > A greedy analytics batch system wants to use as much of the cluster as > possible to maximize computational throughput. When a competing web service > with fixed task size starts up, there must be sufficient resources to run it > immediately. The operator can reserve these resources by setting quota. > However, if these resources are kept idle until the service is in use, this > is wasteful from the analytics job's point of view. On the other hand, the > analytics job should hand back reserved resources to the service when needed > to avoid starvation of the latter. > We can assume that often, the resources needed by the service will be of the > non-revocable variety. Here we need to introduce clearer distinctions between > oversubscribed and revocable resources that are not oversubscribed. An > oversubscribed resource cannot be converted into a non-revocable resource, > not even by preemption. In contrast, a non-oversubscribed, revocable resource > can be converted into a non-revocable resource. > Another related topic is optimistic offers. The pertinent aspect in this > context is again whether resources are oversubscribed or not. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332)