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Marcus Eagan commented on SOLR-14726:
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This thread is so endemic of the challenges with this project. I want to call
out a few I believe are categorically ignored by most committers today because
they do not view them as a problem:
1. The only officially supported driver is Java. Java has plummeted as a first
choice language for companies building new apps. This is a fact of companies
large and small. I am not suggesting Java should go away. I am not that naive.
I am suggesting that by electing to only support it as a client library, you
are signaling to a large swathe of users – go use Elasticsearch!
2. I stand by the claim that two modes of operation are confusing. In SOLR
>8.2, there is no longer a great reason to keep this user experience obstacle
allowed. People should not even know Zookeeper exists. It’s a workhorse, let it
work.
3. Ishan’s point about the video is crucial. All developers are different, and
they require different mediums.
4. Making it easier to get started will not hurt training businesses. It will
grow them. The more people that can get started, the more people will use the
project overall.
I hope that everyone not sucked into Lucene internals (as I have been for a
couple months because of fundamental problem) works on this ticket.
> Streamline getting started experience
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>
> Key: SOLR-14726
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14726
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Task
> Reporter: Ishan Chattopadhyaya
> Assignee: Ishan Chattopadhyaya
> Priority: Major
> Labels: newdev
> Attachments: yasa-http.png
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> The reference guide Solr tutorial is here:
> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/solr-tutorial.html
> It needs to be simplified and easy to follow. Also, it should reflect our
> best practices, that should also be followed in production. I have following
> suggestions:
> # Make it less verbose. It is too long. On my laptop, it required 35 page
> downs button presses to get to the bottom of the page!
> # First step of the tutorial should be to enable security (basic auth should
> suffice).
> # {{./bin/solr start -e cloud}} <-- All references of -e should be removed.
> # All references of {{bin/solr post}} to be replaced with {{curl}}
> # Convert all {{bin/solr create}} references to curl of collection creation
> commands
> # Add docker based startup instructions.
> # Create a Jupyter Notebook version of the entire tutorial, make it so that
> it can be easily executed from Google Colaboratory. Here's an example:
> https://twitter.com/TheSearchStack/status/1289703715981496320
> # Provide downloadable Postman and Insomnia files so that the same tutorial
> can be executed from those tools. Except for starting Solr, all other steps
> should be possible to be carried out from those tools.
> # Use V2 APIs everywhere in the tutorial
> # Remove all example modes, sample data (films, tech products etc.),
> configsets from Solr's distribution (instead let the examples refer to them
> from github)
> # Remove the post tool from Solr, curl should suffice.
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