Hakan Özler created SOLR-17391:
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             Summary: Optimize Backup/Restore Operations for Large Collections
                 Key: SOLR-17391
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-17391
             Project: Solr
          Issue Type: Improvement
      Security Level: Public (Default Security Level. Issues are Public)
          Components: Backup/Restore
    Affects Versions: 9.6.1, 9.6, 9.4.1, 9.5, 9.4
            Reporter: Hakan Özler


The backup/restore performance issue was first reported on [the users 
mail|https://lists.apache.org/thread/ssmzg5nhhxdhgz4980opn1vzxs81o9pk] list.
 
We're experiencing performance issues in the recent Solr versions — 9.5.0 and 
9.6.1 — regarding backup and restore. In 9.2.1, we could take a backup of 10TB 
data in just 1 and a half hours. Currently, as of 9.5.0, taking a backup of the 
collection takes 7 hours! We're unable to make use of disaster recovery 
effectively and reliably in Solr. Therefore, Solr 9.2.1 still remains the most 
effective choice among the other 9.x versions for our use.

It seems that this is the ticket causing this issue:
1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16879

Interestingly, we never encountered a throttling problem during operations when 
this was introduced to be solved based on this argument on 9.2.1. From a devops 
perspective, we have some details and metrics on these tasks to distinguish the 
difference between two versions. The overall IOPS was 150MB on 9.6.1, while 
IOPS was 500MB on 9.2.1 during the same backup and restore tasks. In the first 
below, the peak on the left represents a backup, in contrast, in the 2nd image, 
the same backup operation in 9.5.0 uses less resource. As you may spot, 9.5.0 
seems to be using a fifth of the resources of 9.2.1. 
 
!https://i.imgur.com/aSrs8OM.png!
Image 1.
!https://i.imgur.com/aSrs8OM.png!
Image 2.
 
Apart from that, monitoring some relevant metrics during the operations, I had 
some difficulty interpreting the following metrics:

{code:java}
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.core: 0,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.max: 5,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.size: 1,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.running: 
1,{code}
The pool size was 1 although the pool max size is 5. Shouldn't the pool size be 
5, instead? However, there is always one task running on a single node, not 5 
concurrently, if I'm not mistaken. 

I was also wondering if the max thread size, which is currently 5 in 9.4+, 
could be configurable with either an environment variable or Java parameter? 
The part that needs to be changed seems to be in CoreAdminHandler.java on line 
446 [1] I've made a small adjustment to add a Solr parameter called 
`solr.maxExpensiveTaskThreads` for those who want to set a different thread 
size for expensive tasks. The number given in this parameter must meet the 
criteria of ThreadPoolExecutor, otherwise IllegalArgumentException will occur. 
I've generated a patch [2] and I would love to see if someone from the Solr 
committers would take on this and apply for the upcoming release. Do you think 
our observation is accurate and would this patch be feasible to implement?
 
1. 
[https://github.com/apache/solr/commit/82a847f0f9af18d6eceee18743d636db7a879f3e#diff-5bc3d44ca8b189f44fe9e6f75af8a5510463bdba79ff72a7d0ed190973a32533L446]
2. [https://gist.github.com/ozlerhakan/e4d11bddae6a2f89d2c212c220f4c965] 
 
Follow up on this, we managed to backup a data of 3TB in 50 minutes with the 
patch using `solr.maxExpensiveTaskThreads=5` :
 
!https://i.imgur.com/oeCrhLn.png|width=626,height=239!
 
I also answered the questions from @Kevin Liang , {quote}Was this change tested 
on a cloud that was also taking active ingest/query requests as the same time 
as the backup? {quote}
The test is completed in a SolrCloud 9.6.1 + the patch cluster managed by the 
official Solr operator on Amazon EKS. The backup strategy is not intended to 
happen frequently. Instead, we plan to take some backups for a certain period 
of time, therefore we won't expect intense search traffic in and out during 
backups.  
{quote}This performance is really exciting, but I'm curious how much burden it 
puts on CPU and memory.{quote}
I'd say that Solr was pretty relaxed during the test based on the CPU usage. It 
looks like backup and restore are not a CPU intensive task. Each node used only 
one core at a time. 
!https://i.imgur.com/pEb37nb.png|width=348,height=222!
!https://i.imgur.com/4aFqJVY.png|width=348,height=238!
{quote}Also was this just taking a snapshot backup of the segment files or did 
this also include uploading to S3?{quote}
 
We're using the recommended backup functionality, where Solr uploads everything 
to S3 [1] During backup and restore ops, the relevant metrics looked like this:
{code:java}
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.core: 5,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.max: 5,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.size: 5,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.running: 
5,{code}
While, without the patch, It indicated the following behavior:
{code:java}
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.core: 0,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.max: 5,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.size: 1,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.running: 
1,{code}
 
Given that we have the patch, I believe we've returned to the old 9.2.1 
version. Setting the parameter to 1 seems to replicate the current 9.6.1 
version, where the same backup takes 
2.5 hours. This is clear, there was one thread/task running for a shard on 
every Solr node, as each node has 5 shards in the cluster for the collection, 
and there were 4 more tasks in the queue:
{code:java}
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.core: 1,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.max: 1,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.pool.size: 1,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.running: 1,
      
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.tasks.active: 
1,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.tasks.capacity:
 2147483644,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.tasks.completed:
 0,
ADMIN./admin/cores.threadPool.parallelCoreExpensiveAdminExecutor.tasks.queued: 
4{code}



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