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Hu Ziqian commented on SPARK-25299:
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Hi [~yifeih], your google doc posted at 25/Feb/19 is mainly talked about the 
new api of shuffle ant the mileStone is about implementing existing shuffle 
with new API. 

Do we have any further decision about which architecture would be used in new 
shuffle service? I found there are 5 options in [architecture discussion 
document|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uCkzGGVG17oGC6BJ75TpzLAZNorvrAU3FRd2X-rVHSM/edit#heading=h.btqugnmt2h40]
 and do we already choose one of them to be the candidate?

thank you

> Use remote storage for persisting shuffle data
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: SPARK-25299
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-25299
>             Project: Spark
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Shuffle
>    Affects Versions: 2.4.0
>            Reporter: Matt Cheah
>            Priority: Major
>
> In Spark, the shuffle primitive requires Spark executors to persist data to 
> the local disk of the worker nodes. If executors crash, the external shuffle 
> service can continue to serve the shuffle data that was written beyond the 
> lifetime of the executor itself. In YARN, Mesos, and Standalone mode, the 
> external shuffle service is deployed on every worker node. The shuffle 
> service shares local disk with the executors that run on its node.
> There are some shortcomings with the way shuffle is fundamentally implemented 
> right now. Particularly:
>  * If any external shuffle service process or node becomes unavailable, all 
> applications that had an executor that ran on that node must recompute the 
> shuffle blocks that were lost.
>  * Similarly to the above, the external shuffle service must be kept running 
> at all times, which may waste resources when no applications are using that 
> shuffle service node.
>  * Mounting local storage can prevent users from taking advantage of 
> desirable isolation benefits from using containerized environments, like 
> Kubernetes. We had an external shuffle service implementation in an early 
> prototype of the Kubernetes backend, but it was rejected due to its strict 
> requirement to be able to mount hostPath volumes or other persistent volume 
> setups.
> In the following [architecture discussion 
> document|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uCkzGGVG17oGC6BJ75TpzLAZNorvrAU3FRd2X-rVHSM/edit#heading=h.btqugnmt2h40]
>  (note: _not_ an SPIP), we brainstorm various high level architectures for 
> improving the external shuffle service in a way that addresses the above 
> problems. The purpose of this umbrella JIRA is to promote additional 
> discussion on how we can approach these problems, both at the architecture 
> level and the implementation level. We anticipate filing sub-issues that 
> break down the tasks that must be completed to achieve this goal.



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