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Bikas Saha commented on TEZ-3291:
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Would the split not have the URLs with S3 in them? Wondering how ORC split 
estimator works? If it cases the spit into ORCSplit and inspects internal 
members then perhaps the S3 split could also be cast into the correct object to 
look at the URLs?

> Optimize splits grouping when locality information is not available
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: TEZ-3291
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TEZ-3291
>             Project: Apache Tez
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Rajesh Balamohan
>            Priority: Minor
>         Attachments: TEZ-3291.2.patch, TEZ-3291.WIP.patch
>
>
> There are scenarios where splits might not contain the location details. S3 
> is an example, where all splits would have "localhost" for the location 
> details. In such cases, curent split computation does not go through the 
> rack local and allow-small groups optimizations and ends up creating small 
> number of splits. Depending on clusters this can end creating long running 
> map jobs.
> Example with hive:
> ==============
> 1. Inventory table in tpc-ds dataset is partitioned and is relatively a small 
> table.
> 2. With query-22, hive requests with the original splits count as 52 and 
> overall length of splits themselves is around 12061817 bytes. 
> {{tez.grouping.min-size}} was set to 16 MB.
> 3. In tez splits grouping, this ends up creating a single split with 52+ 
> files be processed in the split.  In clusters with split locations, this 
> would have landed up with multiple splits since {{allowSmallGroups}} would 
> have kicked in.
> But in S3, since everything would have "localhost" all splits get added to 
> single group. This makes things a lot worse.
> 4. Depending on the dataset and the format, this can be problematic. For 
> instance, file open calls and random seeks can be expensive in S3.
> 5. In this case, 52 files have to be opened and processed by single task in 
> sequential fashion. Had it been processed by multiple tasks, response time 
> would have drastically reduced.
> E.g log details
> {noformat}
> 2016-06-01 13:48:08,353 [INFO] [InputInitializer {Map 2} #0] 
> |split.TezMapredSplitsGrouper|: Grouping splits in Tez
> 2016-06-01 13:48:08,353 [INFO] [InputInitializer {Map 2} #0] 
> |split.TezMapredSplitsGrouper|: Desired splits: 110 too large.  Desired 
> splitLength: 109652 Min splitLength: 16777216 New desired splits: 1 Total 
> length: 12061817 Original splits: 52
> 2016-06-01 13:48:08,354 [INFO] [InputInitializer {Map 2} #0] 
> |split.TezMapredSplitsGrouper|: Desired numSplits: 1 lengthPerGroup: 12061817 
> numLocations: 1 numSplitsPerLocation: 52 numSplitsInGroup: 52 totalLength: 
> 12061817 numOriginalSplits: 52 . Grouping by length: true count: false
> 2016-06-01 13:48:08,354 [INFO] [InputInitializer {Map 2} #0] 
> |split.TezMapredSplitsGrouper|: Number of splits desired: 1 created: 1 
> splitsProcessed: 52
> {noformat}
> Alternate options:
> ==================
> 1. Force Hadoop to provide bogus locations for S3. But not sure, if that 
> would be accepted anytime soon. Ref: HADOOP-12878
> 2. Set {{tez.grouping.min-size}} to very very low value. But should the end 
> user always be doing this on query to query basis?
> 3. When {{(lengthPerGroup < "tez.grouping.min-size")}}, recompute 
> desiredNumSplits only when number of distinct locations in the splits is > 1. 
> This would force more number of splits to be generated.



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