On Dec 31, 2006, at 5:12 PM, robert engels wrote:
> PDF was designed as print/prepress layout format.

        PDF was designed as a static representation of printed material for  
reliable on screen viewing.


> Over the years they
> have continually added more and interactive and multimedia features,
>
        
        True.


> but it still is not a very good document format,

        What is missing from PDF that you think is required for a static/ 
fixed document format?


> and the additional
> added complexities have made it essentially a proprietary format

        If the ENTIRE PDF specification is public AND there are over 7  
different International Standards Organization (ISO)-approved OPEN  
PDF standards....How can you say that?


> (since the amount of effort required to fully implement the spec is
> enormous. It is easier to write software to create PDFs (like iText)
> than it is to write software to view them (Adobe Reader and then a
> bunch of other viewers that don't implement anywhere near the full
> spec).
>

        That's true - but that's true of any complex program in today's  
software world.


> Also many of the 'plugins' require M$ Windows, limiting with "open"
> nature.
>

        Such as?  Name me one plugin from Adobe Systems for Acrobat that is  
Windows-only?


> Adobe Reader has become a pig, because the spec has become a pig.
>

        I think your choice of adjectives is unfair, but yes, Reader is  
large because it must do a lot...


> Things like open-doc are superior formats for actually working with
> data.
>

        What sort of data?!?!?


> I think there are far superior open-source GIS solutions.

        Perhaps for processing, but not as a file format for visual  
representation of GIS data that can be viewed by ANYONE.

        However, PDF today doesn't provide for containing rich GIS  
information that can be retrieved/viewed as part of the viewing  
process.  It's certainly something we are looking at in the future  
for PDF - but then PDF will simply become a LARGER specification ;).

        
> PDF may
> make working with trivial maps easier but even so, but a simple SVG
> would probably work even better.

        SVG is an excellent tool, but it's viewability is limited :(.


Leonard
Adobe Systems

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