I can't explain why Acrobat isn't adding the trailer w/o seeing the original - 
sorry :(.

Leonard


On 6/11/09 5:04 PM, "Paul Gatewood" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Bruno,

Sorry for the confusion -- yes, the problem still exists.

Again, here is exactly what I did, using Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro, Version
9.1.1 on Windows XP.

1) Start Acrobat
2) Open original file (without trailer)
    (sorry I can not supply this -- it has confidential information
    from a 3rd party)
3) Choose TouchUp Object tool (this PDF only has 2 images)
4) Right click each of the 2 images, and choose "delete"
5) Choose File -> Save As
6) Enter "leonard.pdf" for the file name (Save as type: Adobe PDF File)\
7) Exit

The file I just produced is attached.   It was produced using exactly
the steps described above.  There was no binary editor involved -- it
was exclusively Acrobat, and has no trailer.

I do not know what was used to produce the original file (the one which
I am not able to supply here, due to confidential/proprietary content).

I am inquiring here (where I work) as to whether the producer of that
original file might be able to produce a sample file using the same tool
to create the original, but with vanilla content, so that I/we may use
it for troubleshooting/testing via this public forum, but I am not sure
when this will work out (there are a few layers of government people
involved).

I guess in the meantime, do I understand the following correctly?
a) the trailer is ALWAYS required, under ALL conditions
b) the text I quoted from the PDF specification I cited
    doesn't have anything to do with this situation

Also, does anyone know anything further regarding Acrobat 9 not adding a
trailer when using "Save As" (when the original document did not have a
trailer)?

In the past, when such files (without trailer) were encountered, I could
1) have the suppliers notified that the file was not valid PDF, due
    to the missing trailer, and
2) remedy the situation by opening it in Acrobat (don't recall whether
    it was Acrobat 7 or 8)

But since Acrobat 9 is not adding the missing trailer, I would like to
know more before I have the suppliers told that they are supplying an
invalid PDF.

Thanks
-Paul

Bruno Lowagie wrote:
> Paul Gatewood wrote:
>> Please ignore the text
>>      "Yes, I produced the file as follows: "
>> after my name -- I had started to describe what I had done before I
>> decided to just do it again, step-by-step, to be sure.
>
> I don't understand: is there still a problem?
> Or did redoing everything step-by-step solve the problem?
> br,
> Bruno
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