On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 04:57:11PM -0500, Tyler Trafford wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 04:27:28PM -0500, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 03:10:42PM -0600, Adam Forsyth wrote:
> > > On 11/16/05, Hans Verkuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I think we should put the old method of loading from /lib/modules back
> > > > into ivtv-0.4.1. It's not that much code and it's not really in the
> > > > way. Opinions? Just for the record: 0.5.x will only support the hotplug
> > > > method.
> > > 
> > > Jut a note from the other thread: having hotplug only will prevent
> > > people from putting ivtv into their initrd images so they can use the
> > > xdriver and graphical boot to get their boot messages on their TVs.
> > 
> > I think that's a very important asset for the PVR industry. The ivtv
> > based systems on PVR-250 (e.g. SageTV) like to get a framebuffer early
> > to splash their Logo and some progress information. Home
> > perfectionists will probably do the same, and some are abusing swsusp2
> > with fb splashing for "instanton" systems.
> 
> The reccomended way of dealing with this sort of thing is to build the
> firmware into the driver.  The size involved in this case makes that
> undesireable though.
> 
> I think newer initramfs startup builders like mkinitramfs and yaird
> include udev (which is totally replacing hotplug) in the image, which
> may solve this.

It already replaces hotplug, e.g. on FC4 and RHEL4, but it only
provides a minimum functionality to deal with some SCSI and FC hotplug
events to allow for early device creation/presentation and
multipathing.

AFAIK it doesn't deal with firmwares, and isn't (currently) intended
to do so. Even the udev functionality is so minimal that you don't
even have udev rules/permissions.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net

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