On 4/23/07, Scheper, Erik-Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Adding an ant script to download the required jars might be a simple
>> way to solve the issue for this alpha release - at least there is a
>> documented way to retrieve these dependencies. In forthcoming
releases
>> I would still prefer to have them included in the binary
distribution.
>
>Why? Ivy is just that -- a dependency resolver. So why not use it to
fetch its own (optional) dependencies? Ivy alone is
>enough to retrieve via http (I think you could even go without ant).
Point taken.
Using ivy to download its own dependencies might be an elegant way - if
(and only if) it is documented very clearly.
I agree, good documentation is mandatory in this case, as well as a very
easy process.
(Almost) all other apache products do it too (look in the geronimo
>> binary for the sheer number of jars included there).
>
>Yes, and this is bad style, IMHO. I've seen so much java projects
(IIRC, also some apache projects) including even different
>versions of dependencies in the source and the binary downloads (or,
worse, using different dependencies in the downloads
>and in their documentation and/or POMs).
>
>But now you have Ivy, which is simple and at the same time powerful
enough to get those problems fixed once and for all. I'd
>love to see more and more projects supplying their own (delivered) ivy
files in their source and binary downloads, so why not
>start with ivy itself?
>
>Of cause, distributing "bundles" (i.e. projects with all dependencies)
still may be an option, but IMHO, it should really be
>optional.
Point taken.
How about doing it the same way the spring-framework does? See:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73357&package_id=1
73644
They distribute two binaries,
-one binary with-dependencies (large and easy)
-one binary without dependencies
Why not, but I agree with Matthias that we should promote the distrib
without dependencies. And if the dependencies downloading is made very easy
(which is quite simple with Ivy), should we still deliver a bundle with all
dependencies?
Xavier
Regards,
Erik-Berndt
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