On 10/17/07, Maarten Coene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure we should download the ivy.jar ourselfs for the tutorials.
> I think it should be the user who should download the jar and make it
> available to the build.xml like he wants.
>
> Downloading the ivy.jar has also some drawbacks:
> - it won't work when you don't have internet
> - it isn't necessary if you already have ivy.jar in the classpath of Ant
> - it could hide errors when users have put an older version of Ivy into
> the classpath of Ant. This older version of Ivy will be used when defining
> the tasks, even if you download a newer ivy.jar (we have the same problem
> at the moment with our own bootstrap mechanism). It will be hard to find out
> what goes wrong in this situation...


I agree. But we have only one "tutorial" which downloads ivy.jar: the go-ivy
tutorial. The advantage is that it doesn't even require to install Ivy
manually, you just copy paste a build.xml and if you already have Ant and a
JDK installed (highly probable for a Java developer), that's enough to have
a first experience with Ivy and pass the 2 minute test. So I'm in favor of
keeping the go-ivy tutorial, and thus need a location to download the
ivy.jar from.

WDYT?

Xavier

Maarten
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:45:43 PM
> Subject: 2.0 beta 1 status
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to check how far we are from the 2.0 beta 1, I think many
> users
> are waiting for it, and we were supposed to release it much earlier.
>
> Among the open issues assigned to the beta 1, one which requires more
> work
> and can't be postponed IMHO is the tutorials review. We already
> discussed
> that and Gilles suggested to make something where the output is
> automatically captured and verified. I don't know if you've had time to
> work
> on that Gilles, but I think it can be very time consuming, while
> reviewing
> tutorials text is still necessary anyway.
>
> So I think we'd better go with the good old human review. I'm ok to
> spend
> some time on that, even though I would appreciate any kind of help (and
> this
> is something that can be done even by non committers, the tutorials as
> well
> as any other documentation can be contributed with patches).
>
> To start with the first tutorial (go-ivy), we need a location to
> download
> ivy.jar from (at least for the go-ivy tutorial). Where can we put this
> jar?
> On our site? IMO the best location would be in maven repository. The
> problems are:
> - we will only be able to put it over there once we have done the
> release,
> - it still requires some work from us to do that: write a pom, update
> our
> release script to prepare artifacts ready to be uploaded to the
> repository.
>
> So, shall we go this way? And even if we publish on the maven
> repository,
> shall we use it to download ivy.jar for the go-ivy tutorial?
>
> Xavier
> --
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> http://ant.apache.org/ivy/
> http://www.xoocode.org/
>
>
>
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