I agree, generics make the code cleaner but in other hand 1.4 compatibility make a tool easy to use for anyone. Many products like application server are not 1.5 compatible ( weblogic 8.1 is not for instance)
To overcome , I used a tool called retroweaver, really cool stuff, converting 1.5 src to 1.4 . That was my 2 cents... Hervé -----Original Message----- From: John Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: mardi 29 mai 2007 15:16 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: jdk version required (was Re: Extending IvyBuildList) Well for one, it is "only" an ant plugin, so it's not like it is forcing everyone to write their programs using generics, but it would mean they would need java5 to run ANT/IVY. I think all they have to do in their ant builds is specify the source and target attributes for the javac task to specify what they are building. So if they want java 1.4 they can use <javac source="1.4" target="1.4"... /> Maybe a snap poll of some kind to see if anyone would mind and what most of the community is using. What about other apache projects (ant, maven would be the main ones I guess), have any of them moved to generics, or do you know if they plan to? It really doesn't bother me that much if IVY stays on 1.4, but generics makes a big difference to readability. There is nothing worse than a method that returns a Collection, and you wonder "A collection of what?" In the end though, if moving to 1.5 prevents moving to IVY, then it's probably not a good idea. On 5/29/07, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5/29/07, John Gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > No Generics!!! It makes the code so much cleaner... I wonder how many > > developers are still stuck on 1.4 (Ivy/Ant/Maven users in particular)? > > 1.4is two version behind the latest now... > > > Indeed, this is something that can be discussed. It's been a long time > since > I don't use 1.4 myself, but it's difficult to estimate for the whole user > community. > > Any thoughts? > > Xavier > > On 5/29/07, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Simple and interesting change, indeed, I think it doesn't hurt to open > > an > > > issue :). For the patch, the only thing is that we are jdk > 1.4compliant, > > > so > > > the use of generics is prohibited. > > > > > > Xavier > > > > > > On 5/29/07, Jean-Baptiste Quenot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Ivy, > > > > > > > > Thanks for providing this great API, and more particularly the > > > > IvyBuildList Ant task that I extend to generate my Hudson > > > > configuration files automatically for continuous build of my > > > > project. > > > > > > > > I only had to slightly modify it to be able to get the list of > > > > sorted modules, and the list of build files. See the attached > > > > patch. > > > > > > > > NOTE: this patch is based on Ivy 1.4.1, but it should be possible > > > > to do the same thing on trunk (the patch does not apply on trunk). > > > > > > > > If this change makes sense to you, I can file a JIRA issue. > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > -- > > > > Jean-Baptiste Quenot > > > > aka John Banana Qwerty > > > > http://caraldi.com/jbq/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Xavier Hanin - Independent Java Consultant > > > Manage your dependencies with Ivy! > > > http://incubator.apache.org/ivy/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > John Gill > > > > > > -- > Xavier Hanin - Independent Java Consultant > Manage your dependencies with Ivy! > http://incubator.apache.org/ivy/ > -- Regards, John Gill
