I doubt maintenance for the current codebase running on Java 1.3 would
be completely removed. I interpreted the original question as aimed at
new and future development. I don't want to speak for Michael, but
that's the way I read it.

-Nathan

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Jacob Kjome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:36:26 -0500
>  "David Ezell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Well, one person's 4 is another person's 3.
>>
>> We're stuck on 1.3 for the foreseeable future.
>>
>> So -1 to drop 1.3.
>
> I partially agree with this.  There's no reason 1.3 needs to be dropped for
> the current 2.x.x codebase.  Why not maintain 2.x.x at 1.3 and move on to
> 3.x development which would be 1.5+ (or even 1.6+).  Xerces2 is very
> stable.  1.3 and 1.4 users can continue to depend on it.  I maintain the
> XMLC project, which is currently limited to JDK 1.3 anway.  If critical
> issues are found in Xerces2, they can be fixed on the Xerces2 branch where
> 1.3 and 1.4 users can benefit.  Of course, we can also expect that 1.3 and
> 1.4 users are in maintenance mode and won't require fancy new features.  All
> new feature development can take place on the trunk, which will represent
> the Xerces3 codebase, and will be able to take advantage of all the latest
> JDK features.  Who knows, maybe Sun can eventually drop the
> com.sun.apache.xerces stuff and migrate back to the original, stable, Xerces
> product once it is not limited by old VM's.
>
> Jake
>
>>
>> David Ezell
>> VeriFone
>> Chair, XML Schema WG
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Schmidlin, Franck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:
>>> Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:35 AM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; j-users@xerces.apache.org
>>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: RE: Dropping JDK 1.2 support for Xerces-J (and possibly JDK 1.3?
>>> 1.4? in the future)
>>>
>>>  > a new infusion of activity and interest.
>>>
>>> you betcha, most of us would be up in arms!
>>>
>>> I personally am stuck on 1.4.2 for the foreseeable future.
>>>
>>> So +1 to drop 1.2/3 support, but let's not get too drastic please.
>>>
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan
>>> Beyer
>>> Sent: 11 November 2008 02:25
>>> To: j-users@xerces.apache.org
>>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: Dropping JDK 1.2 support for Xerces-J (and possibly JDK 1.3?
>>> 1.4? in the future)
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> I'd suggest just jumping to Java 5 library, source and target
>>> compilation. I think this would give the project a new infusion of activity
>>> and interest.
>>>
>>> -Nathan
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Michael Glavassevich
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > (including [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the cc list to hopefully reach a >
>>> > wider
>>> > audience)
>>> >
>>> > I would like to propose that we officially drop support for JDK 1.2 in
>>>
>>> > the next release of Xerces-J. Though the documentation [1] states that
>>>
>>> > Xerces supports JDK 1.2 it has been years since we have built or >
>>> > tested binaries with this level. All of the recent releases were built
>>>
>>> > and tested with JDK 1.3. It was brought to my attention that the code >
>>> > [2] since at least 2006 has had a dependency on APIs introduced in JDK
>>>
>>> > 1.3. So we inadvertently moved on awhile ago. It seems this has not >
>>> > been a practical issue for most users since we've received no posts on
>>>
>>> > these lists about it and received no other bug reports. It's not clear
>>>
>>> > that there would be much benefit in restoring JDK 1.2 compatibility at
>>>
>>> > this point. It's been out of service for years and looking around >
>>> > Apache it seems most projects run on JDK 1.4 or higher with some of
>>> the stragglers [3][4] below that moving up soon.
>>> >
>>> > If you have serious concerns regarding Xerces abandoning JDK 1.2 >
>>> > support please send an email to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing > list,
>>> > specifying why you can't use a higher level of JDK and what > parser
>>> > features you are using.
>>> >
>>> > While on the subject I wonder what the community would think of us >
>>> > eventually dropping support for JDK 1.3 and possibly 1.4. There were >
>>> > features introduced in JDK 1.4 and 5 which Xerces could benefit from
>>> (e.g.
>>> > NIO, java.lang.CharSequence, exception chaining, >
>>> > java.lang.StringBuilder, java.util.concurrent.*, etc...). That's not >
>>> > something I'm proposing today (or thinking of proposing for awhile) > but
>>> > would like to hear feedback from users (please send to
>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) who may still need new versions of Xerces >
>>> > which run on JDK 1.3 and 1.4. It would also be nice hear from folks > 
>>> > who've
>>> > long since moved on to Java 5 and beyond and would like to see
>>> Xerces take advantage of JDK 1.4 and 5 features.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> > [1] http://xerces.apache.org/xerces2-j/faq-general.html#faq-11
>>> > [2] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XERCESJ-1297
>>> > [3] http://marc.info/?l=ant-dev&m=122596549809889&w=2
>>> > [4] http://marc.info/?l=fop-user&m=119244442600564&w=2
>>> >
>>> > Michael Glavassevich
>>> > XML Parser Development
>>> > IBM Toronto Lab
>>> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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