> 
> Actually, I have. JSSE is extremely annoying to download, and can't be
> redistributed either. So I think we should use some pluggable socket
> factories instead (with a compilation switch).
> 

actually, i believe you *can* redistribute jsse.  from the jsse website
(http://java.sun.com/products/jsse/):

"The binary implementation may be used royalty-free as part of
commercial applications"

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