Vasile, You raise some good points, which I would like to discuss further, but would it be OK if we edit/revise the subject line so our discussion isn't buried in this Jaluino messages?
William On Sep 1, 11:15 pm, vasile surducan <[email protected]> wrote: > On 9/1/09, a.faber <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Vasile, > > > For hobby it's good, but those hobby projects will be someday production > > As far as I understood, this board is targetted for the hobiiest > > (i.e. single sided boards, thru hole, easy to obtain components, not too > > expensive). > > If it becomes a success and a someone will create a (small) batch, I would > > redesign the board > > based on SMD components > > > > projects... I see this based on your complicated code. > > Don't get this remark. > > Sorry, maybe the word complex is better. It was just an admirative remark. > > For a better understanding, the initial Jal purpose was to > start with microcontrollers with a minimum programming experience, for > people of which programming is not the fist job. It was in 1999. > I'm following the jal evolution (with some pauses) since 2000. > I have created many projects in jal (I guess more than 100), including some > in jalV2 with I'm struggling right now with a large project (60pcs after > prototyping). I've noticed is easier to design and prototyping directly with > SMD's as long you can see with your own eyes. This last project is the first > one after 10 years with through holes, the rest was SMD. > > My first goal was to port old projects in jalV2, thinking will be easyest. > It was not. OK, then I've start understanding the jalV2 libraries and the > compiler philosophy (and still don't understand a lot of things because the > speed of releasing new jal revision/jal libraries is bigger than upgrading > documentation). > Now I'm trying to understand other's libraries which are better software > programmers that I'll ever be. > My conclusion is that jal becomes a language only for software > proffesionals, hard to understood by a beginner. Don't expect too much on > this side. > > As a book writer (the first one -and for me the last one- talking about jal > in 2003) I can assure you that a beginner in electronic field (which has > never heard about jal before), without any programming experience, will use > jalV2 with hard struggle using the library pack created and based only > on the compiler and library documentation. My conclusion is based on the > questions got from those book readers (from about 500 books sold, maybe 100 > questions, meaning the rest never use the compiler). > > My opinion, as a hardware engineer ( playing with software in his spare > time) the essence of a good library pack is not the speed of upgrading but > the completion of documentation and examples about using those. Even some > bugs aren't so important as long you catch them once. > > For example, some people are still learning old jal, just because the > compiler is deeply explained and there are available a lot of examples, even > JALV2 is one class above. > > I hope I didn't upset anyone, it wasn't my intention. Maybe the Jaluino > developers will take something from this experience about designing the > board and mostly, describing how it works and howcan be used with a library > pack.. > > thx, > Vasile --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "jallib" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
