Hi Matt, As you can see there is allways an "old boys" perspective and the "youth" perspective. It does not means one is better than other. Unfortunately the old boys have seen this struggle of organizing and advertizing since many years backward.
Contributors of free software have in common something special, however even the ferocious one will finally be defeated by his age, his business or just become boring. BTW, jal V2 is already a popular language, with or without this new face of webpage... so go forward exactly in the way you wish to, nobody will say no. Vasile On 10/30/09, mattschinkel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > jalv2 + jallib is a powerful software, I suggest we don't hold back. > We need to organize & advertize. This will greatly increase the number > of users and contributers, and with more contributers you get more > libs. Let's get to the next level whatever that is. Do you want jallib > & jalv2 to be a popular language? > > I wish for jalv2 + jallib to be popular so I get to have more fun with > more components and meet more friends, and hopefully some will be so > interested they will help jalv2 work with bigger better PIC's and > other microcontrollers. > > Rob, what may not seem important to you is quite important to others. > If it is not important now then when will it be important? > > What does everyone else think? nobody is speaking up. > > > Matt. > > On Oct 29, 2:38 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi again, > > > > Any thoughts on this ? Particularly, Rob, do you agree to move some > > important content to a website (and, using DITA, making available to any > > document). > > > > I feel if we add a "marketing layer" around our work, we may get jalv2, > > jallib & friends one step further... > > > > Please advise ! (Rob, and all of you of course) > > > > Cheers, > > Seb > > > > 2009/10/28 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, thet fact this page looks beautiful was kind of a joke. I > mostly > > > agree with you: content is more important than how it looks. But does > this > > > mean how it looks isn't important ? I'm sure you'd say "no, it's > important > > > too". > > > > > As I understand, you don't think it's a priority, and there are more > urgent > > > things. Could you list some of them ? I can only see this servo > controller > > > :) We don't sell books, we don't sell anything in the sense of money, > but we > > > do sell our own dog food, and I think we're doing this very poorly. > This has > > > been confirmed by some users' feedback recently. > > > > > That's why we need to organize documentation (doing this on jalliblog > was a > > > bad idea -- of mine :(), that's why we need to centralize content on a > > > website. And that website needs to be beautiful, it must be pleasant to > > > visit it, so appearance serves content ! > > > > > Now few more words about JSG to DITA conversion. If JSG is DITAfied > (...), > > > we'll be able to put in any books, any webpages, etc... That's mainly > why I > > > would like to DITAfy (...) it. The "cerise sur le gâteau" is this nice > > > webpage, that advertises how we write things, how normalized is our > work, > > > etc... A buildbot page will follow, as DITA & JAPP pages. This is about > > > development, but it shows users how we develop, with which tools, where > we > > > go, etc... This has to be showned on a dedicated website, not just hide > on a > > > crappy google code wiki page. > > > > > Now I understand you'd still like to see this page on GC. I'll look for > a > > > way to convert DITA to GC wiki syntax (probably with an intermediary). > > > > > Cheers, > > > Seb > > > > > 2009/10/28 Rob Hamerling <[email protected]> > > > > >> Hi Seb, > > > > >> Sebastien Lelong wrote: > > >> > Here's a first attempt: > > > > >> >http://justanotherlanguage.org/content/jsg > > > > >> It look beautifuls indeed (not surprisingly!). > > > > >> > (Rob, see how it shines ! Don't you think our JSG deserves a nice > > >> > website like this ? :)) > > > > >> Well, of course you can be proud of the result, but ... > > > > >> To me the contents of a book is much more valuable than the > appearance. > > >> I agree that a nice appearance of a book will be of influence on the > > >> selling results in a book shop, but we are not selling books. JSG is > > >> mandatory literature for a Jallib developer, so its appearance is not > so > > >> important. And there are more urgent things (than this discussion!). > > > > >> Regards, Rob. > > > > >> -- > > >> Rob Hamerling, Vianen, NL (http://www.robh.nl/) > > > > > -- > > > Sébastien Lelong > > >http://www.sirloon.net > > >http://sirbot.org > > > > -- > > Sébastien Lelonghttp://www.sirloon.nethttp://sirbot.org- Hide quoted text > - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "jallib" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
