On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Joep Suijs <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Vasile,
>
> >I lost my courage of using this compiler on an ARM... :(
> Why is that?
>

   Everytime I'm starting writing software (I'm not doing this every day) I
found unusual problems, the sort of errors you're never talking about here.
(I've used the words errors instead of bugs because I've seen Kyle is very
sensitive to this word...and because probably are only from my fault or
weird use of the programming language). However I'm probably the only one
which I can't say I'm programming for (too much) fun. I'm designing PCB and
soldering for fun, make a board running for fun, but not programming.


>
> > I can't follow your logic now. You have 10 boards and 1 adapter?
> I guess your boards outnumber pic programmers too...


I was thinking is about communication not programming. Anyway, except the
microcontroller based programmers, none of the cheap and dirty one from the
web does work with simple USB to serial conversion. As long it doesn't,
manufacturing a pickit2 clone is much easier than buying one USB/RS232
converter and one programmer...


> In most cases,
> you need the adapter only when developing and not within the actual
> application, just like the programmer.
> The saving might not be worth it for you, but for others it may be.
> After all, the FTDI chip is equally expensive as the pic.


There are chinese clone to this IC and many other similar versions, is not
the only one.
On AVR there is an USB software emulated.


> And similar,
> there are many low-end offerings alternatives for arduino that omit
> the FTDI chip too.
>

Well, this concept of arduino/jaluino is so pour even in terms of hobby
design. Stacking one board to another and another on top of those two,
without the choice of being able to measure something on the boards without
separate them...a board having nothing on it except the microcontroler
supply and some silly conectors.


>
> > I didn't see any crisis in Netherland...
> Only one bank got bankrupt and business is slow, but I guess we
> shouldn't complain.
>
> Joep
>
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