When you're in hurry, when you're afraid of missing this kind of train, take
a breath, take your time, let the train goes and try another one. Cultivate
another, different field with different vegetables, they may savor better in
the end :)

You probably loose this by the time Arduino was out... (and Arduino's
ancestor Programma 2003 was using Jal  -- I think Massimo Banzi was a
contributor by this time, he's still mentioned in jallist FAQ. See this
paper: http://www.viktoria.se/altchi/submissions/submission_mellis_0.pdf)

Cheers,
Seb

2010/7/31 funlw65 <[email protected]>

> Hi guys,
>
> Now we have also AmiPIC18 board, some sort of Amicus18 copy.
> http://www.picshop.nl/
> Remember this page?
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/funlw65/electronics/jaluino-pinguino-28-pins-starting-bo
>
> I did that only as a starting discussion and when Amicus18 appeared, I
> thought it is a "not so good" design because didn't tried to map
> Arduino peripherals as SPI and I2C. But with this AmiPIC18 I think is
> establishing as a standard - I think anyone try to benefit from the
> complete version of Proteus Basic (including SD card) for 18F25K20....
>
> I still think that not mapping Arduino peripherals, you don't have a
> real Arduino clone - you cloned only the shape and the principle of
> shields. Is enough? Unfortunately, with the major help of Proton
> Basic, I'm afraid it is ...
>
> I hope we didn't loosed any train...
>
> Vasi(funlw65)
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